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Go back to Lawrenceville
by ...or better yet, home to the 'burbs Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 11:47 AM

Is this a joke?
If this really happened, it sounds way more fun than anything POG would be involved in.
Fair-trade and vegetarian? Capitalism looks mighty fine in that hair-shirt.
If any vandalism did in fact occur, who needs insurance money? All you need to do is sell a few cups of burnt coffee and some bland, slimy food, at those hipster prices, and that should more than cover it.
Maybe it was a local resident who found out that they pay more rent on their one bedroom apartment than this business did?
Maybe the owners broke their own stuff for weed money?

oh, anarchies
by wakka wakka wakka Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 12:29 PM

oh, anarchies. will you ever learn to not act so fucking stupid?

CAPITALISM 101
by el dude Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 1:04 PM

Since you ignorant ass anarchies are so against capitalism and so busy complaining and crying about everything possible, you weren't able to sit down and analyze the cost of things. We live in a world where things cost money. If you don't like that, then go live in the woods or on Fantasy Island. Cuba has 3 currencies, so don't go there.

COST OF RUNNING A BUSINESS 101:
If you break down the cost of a 6 dollar sandwich, you'll have to consider the following expenses:

-food materials - all ingredients
-rent (even if subsidized like you claim, it still costs something)
-utilities
-business insurance
-time / labor (sure, your time isn't worth money, but to people that get up and go to work, it is)
-taxes - something that you probably know very little about except when you want to complain about pot holes giving your dumpstered bike a flat tire.

If you take all of those expenses and subtract them from a six dollar sandwich, the profit margin is very thin.

You have taken idiocy to another level and as wrong as it is, I'm glad that the FBI has been watching you all.

It's a hard knock life
by la bamba Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 1:24 PM

It's funny, because the only whining I hear aside from the typical liberal bleating is about the difficulties involved in being the captain of a gentrification flagship.
Not to mention the typical awe and reverence for law enforcement that is so typical of the pampered.

um
by mu Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 1:53 PM

So if the quiet storm is the flagship, the co-op is what - the command base?

mu
by um Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 3:29 PM

No, the "co-op" is just another union-busting, greenwashed grocery store where liberals can buy overpriced allegedly "fair-trade/organic" indulgences to absolve themselves of their sins, and Point Breeze was already bougie. Maybe it was really a co-op at one time, I don't know enough about its history.

More Victims
by Rick S. Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 3:53 PM

The irony (and you hipsters love that) is that the Quiet Storm is just a placeholder until we can convince Starbuck's to move in. The hobby of owning an art gallery on Penn Ave. will get real expensive then.

Moderate, Matt
by Moderate, Matt Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 4:30 PM

Matt, maybe you should take down this libelous article, instead of whining about anarchies, unless you're the author?

since we'll all be in grad school together in 5 years...
by t Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 6:48 PM

...can't we all just get along?

grad school?
by ex-anarchy Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 7:47 PM

Hey anarchies, take my advice and skip grad school after you are done with your smashing the system phase. You'll be in less debt (to the man) if you just jump right into the system instead of tippy toeing your way into it.

???
by ??? Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 8:53 PM

Did POG leave a signature or something that identifies them as the responsible for this? Something like the mark of the Zorro but for POG.

Or is it just that people want to create buzz?

It's lovely to see how some random person likes to blame things on others for no apparent reason.

"liberal" businesses
by pepe le pew research center Sunday, Jun. 03, 2007 at 9:49 PM

I hear the coop is engaged in its own brand of gentrification. there goes the neighborhood. the quiet storm got rid of a lot of those "annoying black kids" [sic] when they dumped their computer. then it just went bougie city from there.

please remove article
by - Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 2:21 AM

please remove article. it's libelous and completely untrue.

i love you guys
by rapier Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 3:37 AM

Oh you kids with your misplaced anger against the system uselessly lashing out against people you think aren't hardcore enough. Its funny. You anarchy kids are just so damn cute with your little slogans and cans of spraypaint.

Also, the only people that would think the co-op are gentirifiers are addled headed dimwits who don't understand that they've been there longer than they've been alive. Which makes it even funnier really.

re: removing article
by ~ Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 11:44 AM

I'm fairly sure that that article would be considered satire. Also, it's sort of funny that people who defend throwing rocks through windows are concerned with libel laws. Way to stick it to the man!!!

get your shit together
by come the ยท$%3 on Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 1:27 PM

This is just plain pathetic. Whoever posted this lame article is just sad, and obviously hates POG. Stop bashing on them only because they are only out there radical group you know of. Even if we all don't agree with their tactics, they know better than smashing the quite storm. This is just ridiculous...

And stop bashing radicals and anarchists, come on. There are many of us out there, and we all have different views and tactics and people need to stop bashing on anarchists like we are all a bunch of young angry punks. And even if we were angry punks, people have the right to be mad....although the QS has to be a poor target for directing your anger.

Longer Than Most
by dendrio Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 2:56 PM

First of all, the original article is clearly a satire mocking the ideological pretentions of so-called anarchists who seem to think that anarchy is synonymous with wanton destruction. It's so obvious that it shouldn't even have to be said.

The East End Food Co-Op has been there for 30 years, well before the East End was being gentrified - whatever that means. However the perpetrators rationalize their vandalism, the fact is they did nothing to "smash the state" or "smash capitalism" or "take it to the man."

All they did was fuck-up the one non-corporate owned grocery store in the entire city of Pittsburgh - and, might I add, the ONLY grocery store that serves the East End and Homewood.

However sad the vandalism at the Co-Op is, sadder still are the muddle-headed comments rationalizing the vandalism. We live in a city with some serious problems with poverty, illiteracy/miseducation, drugs, lack of jobs, police brutality, street crime, and a whole host of other real problems that affect the materials lives of residents every day.

A community-owned grocery store is not one of those problems. In fact, it's one of many small solutions that make lcity living livable.

Finally, someone alluded to the fact that Co-Op management are union busters.

First of all, I doubt most self-described anarchists know what union busting looks like. It usually involves broken bones and busted heads, even in this country. One SEIU sit-in in Dallas last year was broken up by a mounted police charge, i.e. police, mounted on horseback, charged into a mass of peaceful protesters, sending dozens to the hospital. THAT's union busting. In Altoona, PA, SEIU again (the most active and activist union in the country today) is organizing health care workers. The workers and the organizers are followed home at night, they receive threatening phone calls and anonymous notes. Organizers and workers have to meet at odd hours in odd places because if a worker is seen with someone from the SEIU, that worker gets fired. An outside "union consulting firm" has been hired to "educate" workers about the "problems" unions "cause" in the workplace. THAT'S UNION BUSTING. That's not what happened at the Co-op.

What happened at the Co-Op were three incompetant and inept union drives - the last one being a card-check drive, that is, all they had to do was get 50% + 1 staffers to sign union cards. The organizers could not even do that. They couldn't even persuade the people they work cheek-to-jowl with every day that joining the union was in their own interest. The one "dirty trick" came from an aging, bubble-headed hippie who tried to start a rival union out of whole cloth. Pathetic.

Leave The Internet
by Alex James Hidell Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 6:12 PM
alex.james.hidell@gmail.com

The POG has declared war on everything having to do with money? Great! Then please stop using this Website, as it costs money to maintain it.

satire
by david Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 7:15 PM
david@indypgh.org

this is a difficult call - diminutive satire may not sufficient justification for hiding an article. PGH IMC's editorial policies, however, allows posts to be hidden if they "contain information that is not true and could cause confusion about an event in the future."

http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/process/openpub.php

Still lying?
by It's still not true Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 8:54 PM

So, if it's not good TV or grad student organizers who have never worked a blue collar day in their lives, encourage working people to get the shit kicked out of them so that Stern and his band of thieves get a cut of their wages and the workers themselves get minor concessions?

You forgot a few wrinkles in the so-called "co-op's" activities that were in no way union busting. The "old hippie" who pretended to start his own union was (and maybe is again) long-time co-op management. The co-op also brought in a consultant with union busting experience, and the manager who pretended to start a union rented an apartment to the consultant. Not to mention the suspicious anti-semitic/anti-union graffiti in employee areas.



ha
by Poo Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 9:55 PM

Having the word "organizing" in an anarchist group is amusing.

it was probably someone trying to frame anarchists
by me Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 10:50 PM

...it's not hard to imagine that anarchists would have hit whole foods before anything else.

i smell a setup and an easy way to get organized people fighting amongst themselves and breeding distrust.

it was probably someone trying to frame anarchists
by me Monday, Jun. 04, 2007 at 10:54 PM

...it's not hard to imagine that anarchists would have hit whole foods before anything else.

i smell a setup and an easy way to get organized people fighting amongst themselves and breeding distrust.

SEIU
by nursing lies Tuesday, Jun. 05, 2007 at 1:44 AM

Is SEIU so feared it has to snuggle-up with Wal-Mart and Kaiser Hospital? I didn't see anyone club the SEIU janitors who were fired downtown over the head with a blackjack, but wasn't it an attempt at union-busting nonetheless? And the co-op workers did get over 50% of the union cards signed which was stated in a press release about a card check conducted at the Thomas Merton Center.

Where's John Lacny?

Thoughts
by Sam Tuesday, Jun. 05, 2007 at 2:48 AM

It's true that the Co-Op and the Quiet Storm -- and "socially responsible" businesses in general -- are ultimately no more defensible than capitalist enterprise in general. Attacks on these establishments, though, are extremely problematic from the standpoint of tactics.

To begin with, whatever the attackers' intent was is not at all clear, which itself reveals the action's ineffectiveness. There are three possibilities: to propagandize against the G8, to wage "direct warfare" against capital, or to inspire others.

Being in no way directly connected to the G8, these were obvious poor targets if the goal was propaganda. And just spray-painting "G8" doesn't help: it makes everyone else who (rightly!) opposes the G8 look like an idiot or a criminal, inhibiting movement-building. Moreover, it detracts attention *away* from the message and *toward* the act of vandalism itself.

The costs to capital of these sorts of individual attacks are negligible. They also reflect and reinforce a *misunderstanding* of capitalism as a.) rooted in the process of consumption rather than production (that is, exploitation of workers) and b.) necessarily producing only things that are socially destructive. (An approach that avoided this misunderstanding would rather be focused on attacking profits by organizing workers to secure their right to the value they produce, and to democratically control their own workplaces.)

And these attacks could never inspire anyone. Historically, Anarchists practiced "propaganda by the deed" -- acts of terror meant to inspire radical action. These days, most disavow the term due to its association with bombings and assassinations, but unfortunately, many still adhere to the general idea, if now preferring the destruction of windows to that of human beings.

The fact of the matter is that revolution is not upon us, and vast majority of workers currently have no sympathy for such actions. These are people who understandably too worried about how to pay the bills to care much about someone attacking a vegetarian restaurant, or who put American flags on their car. It's not pretty, but it's what we have to work with here and now.

Whatever their intentions, it's clear that whoever carried out these actions is completely out of touch with the mass of people who bear the brunt of exploitation and oppression, and that this has led them to think they *know better* than these people, leading them to adopt tactics more elitist in content than the worst "Leninist" sect. I would venture to guess that the workers who had to clean up these messes feel the same way.

Also...
by Sam Tuesday, Jun. 05, 2007 at 2:54 AM

Before anyone says it: no, I don't think whoever did it should go to jail. And no, I don't think that property destruction is absolutely wrong at all times and in all places. (However, I can't think of anywhere it would be appropriate as a tactic *here* and *now*.)

Another thing: yeah, SEIU sucks, and needs to be challenged. Non-union labor sucks more, and needs to be challenged more.

I want flicks!
by Jules Bonot Tuesday, Jun. 05, 2007 at 3:03 PM

It's great that your trust-fund sanctuaries got fucked up. Emile Henry in the place to be. All cats need right now are some flicks. I know someone has them. Post them shits! Great action yall! Who ever did this, keep up the good work!!!

Have You Forgotten?
by Daryl W. Tuesday, Jun. 05, 2007 at 4:43 PM

I hear people saying that moneymaking's wrong
I say that Garfield is where my gallery belongs
What about our soy milk and this work of art?
Don't you try to tell me, that's how gentrification starts
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start preaching
Let me ask you this my friend

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your hangout vandalized
And being told to go away?
Have you forgotten when those windows broke?
We had to wait for tofu scramble
And no Bali Shag to smoke
How much money could vegan brunch have brought in?
Have you forgotten?

I couldn't understand the messages they sprayed
But all our stuff is perfect, organic and fair trade
I support Peduto and whine about Bush every day
I have bumper stickers, that I prominently display
Ironic Pabst hangover; my brain is a fog
They said that they were anarchists, so I guess we'll just blame POG

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your hangout vandalized
And being told to go away?
Have you forgotten when those windows broke?
We had to wait for tofu scramble
And no Bali Shag to smoke
Developers aren't what our clique has brought in
Have you forgotten?

How dare they say they co-op board's
No better than the police?
They'll pay to bust a union
But they sell nutritional yeast

CHORUS 2
Have you forgotten that we worship glass
Because we're liberals, like the right-wing worships flags?
Have you forgotten that the things we buy
Are the things that make us human
It's how we identify
How much money could vegan brunch have brought in?
Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

shopping
by consumption junction Wednesday, Jun. 06, 2007 at 4:11 AM

looks like i'm going to have to shop at the co-op and eat at the quiet storm twice as much over the next few months. everybody else should do the same.

Consumption Junction
by Gee Dubya Wednesday, Jun. 06, 2007 at 10:08 AM

That's the same advice I gave folks after the real 9/11, not that the pgh hipster 9/11 isn't tragic, too. You can see how much good it did the US. I'm sure if you spend twice as much money to buy your friends, I mean at your friend's businesses, that'll do the trick.

hipster 9/11
by oh my Saturday, Jun. 09, 2007 at 10:53 PM

hipster 9/11 ... too cruel!

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