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POG returns to Oakland Recruiting Station
by sarge Friday, Nov. 18, 2005 at 4:48 PM

On Friday, November 18th, Pittsburgh Organizing Group (POG) held a noisy but non-violent protest outside a military recruiting station in Oakland.

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PITTSBURGH STANDS UP TO MILITARY RECRUITMENT ON "NATIONAL STAND DOWN DAY"

On Friday, November 18th, Pittsburgh Organizing Group (POG) held a noisy but non-violent protest outside a military recruiting station in Oakland. About 50 individuals turned out over the course of two hours in sub-freezing weather to the station where police attacked non-violent protesters with tasers, pepper-spray and police dogs on August 20th. Today's was POG's 15th trip to the oakland station since the group launched a counter-recruitment campaign last May.

A steady beat of drums, whistles and chants were among the ways protesters "turned up the volume" at today's protest, One activist left a warning on the closed and locked entrance to the recruiting center that read, "Warning: Child Predators Operate Here." The Pitt student group, Pitt Against the War (PAW), also maintained a sizable and loud presence at the picket.

Several unidentified men--presumably plainclothes officers--occupied an empty floor across the street from the recruiting station and videotaped and photographed everyone in attendance.

Today's protest was part of "National Stand Down Day," a national day of action sponsored by the Iraq Pledge of Resistance (http://www.iraqpledge.org), named after a "stand down" day this past May 19th, when the US army was forced to close its recruiting stations after several hundred well-documented cases of recruiter malfeasance came to light. All told, 15 cities held protests--some committing acts of civil disobedience––at recruiting centers where young Americans are being enlisted to kill and die in an unpopular war with no apparent end in sight.

POG members say they plan to continue to protest the Oakland recruiting station and will soon announce their next date.

Other components of POG's on-going counter-recruitment campaign include leafleting outside Pittsburgh high schools and a petition drive to pass a Pittsburgh Public School Board resolution banning or at least limiting recruiters' access to students at local high schools. POG is also planning a regional counter recruitment conference in early March in order to bring together local and out-of-town groups working against military recruitment.

For more information about POG and its counter recruitment campaign, visit http://www.organizepittsburgh.org or email pog@mutualaid.org.

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by sarge Friday, Nov. 18, 2005 at 4:48 PM

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homeless
by mr. snuggles Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 at 10:13 AM

Hi i was wondering if you guys can protest mcdonalds. I was trying to sleep there and they kicked me out. I mean we all dress the same and smell the same so i was hoping we could help each other out. thank you, mr snuggles

STOP PICKETING QDOBA YOU ASSES
by i need to work Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 at 7:03 PM

Hey, could you people please stop this nonsense. This is affecting business for Qdoba and others on the street. Maybe all of you guys can afford not to have a job or are all on scholarship, but there are some out here who need to and want to work. The only way we can work is if the businesses can sell their products and make money to pay us. You people are scaring people away. Business is always down when you are aout there, even if you are not directly in front of the store. A lot of people really don't want to be hassled with having to be confronted with your protesters (many of whom are loud and verbally assualt anyone who might not want to take their flyers). Peopel also don't like the possibility that you might get yourselves involved in some police action, when all they want is to have lunch.

Besides, your flyers are offensive. Don't assume that everyone that is of enlistment age is a "child". It is so arrogant of you to think that you have to protect the "children" because you are all so erudite. I have seen some of the protesters and they ARE children, barely (maybe not even) old enough to vote. Look, I may not care for America's militaristic tendencies, but I don't think that I should tell someone else how to live their own life by preventing them from enlisting in the military. Have you ever thought that maybe if you are successful in getting the enlistment numbers down that then there might have to be a conscription?

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by ----- Tuesday, Nov. 29, 2005 at 11:42 AM

Although I have doubts as to whether you actually work at Qdoba I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and respond to the points you raise. I'd welcome you to come outside at our next picket and actually talk to people about why they're there.

No one to your comments.

So it's protesters fault that the recruitment station is situated next to the Qdoba? I don't think so. That's the price of democracy and capitalism. To tell people not to exercise thier rights because potential customers seeing people using thier first admendment rights convinces people to avoid buying things is quite simply ridiculous.

Hey Steelers fans, don't go to the games anymore, you're gumming up traffic and making me late to where I need to go. Hey government, stop having so many official holidays where we feel pressured to close the store, it's bad for business.

If Qdoba (I assume by bringing them up your speaking for the store) feels that the presence of the recruiting station is bad for business they should take that up with the landlord who could lower the rent (as your basic claim is the location is less valuable) or encourage the recruiting station to move to a different location- this is basic economics my friend, if one store is brining down the property value/profit of the others it's much more efficent for that store to move to a different location.

"Hey, could you people please stop this nonsense. This is affecting business for Qdoba and others on the street."

Do you realize there is a war going on? That thousands of people are dying? If not counter-recruitment what is it that you suggest people do to oppose the war?

"Maybe all of you guys can afford not to have a job or are all on scholarship, but there are some out here who need to and want to work."

First off, most of us have jobs. Secondly, people picket the recruiting station less than once every two weeks for 2 hours at a time. That's at most 48 hours a year, what's that total 1.5% of your open time?

"Besides, your flyers are offensive. Don't assume that everyone that is of enlistment age is a "child"."

Umm. No one does. There are 4 different flyers that are passed out and only 1 is specifically for high school students. Why just for them? Because there are specific issues that affect them such as opt-out forms and they face the brunt of being exposed to MANDATORY enlistment propoganda. We're not taking over kids gym classes, we're not having kids watch our commercials on channel one, we're not parking hummers outside of schools and giving away key chains to kids, etc. If people take our materials fine, if they don't fine. I've yet to see someone say something to someone not taking a flyer except in cases where the person made an offensive remark towards us.

Furthermore you seem to think that people should adopt an let live attitude and simply let people do as they want without bothering them about such petty things as the predictable consequences of thier actions or bothering to inform them about alternative perspectives. I'll tell you what, as soon as the gov't and military does that I will as well. As soon as they produce non-biased info on recruitment I'll stop handing out flyers that call them on thier bs. The fact is they won't do that because they would never get enough people to fight in iraq without spending billions on propoganda and passing laws that force give them to get access to people that groups like ours will never get. By pretending that what we're doing is about denying people the right to make a choice you're trying to justify your own complicity in this war as a member of the society, you're basically saying that people who might enlist shouldn't have access to opposing viewpoints and hence shouldn't get to make an informed decision, and you're helping to create a situation where a disempowered citizenry has no real options for resistance to unjust and immoral acts committed by it's government. No thanks, I'll pass.

And if you think counter-recruitment is going to bring back the draft I think you may not have looked closely enough at the situation our country is currently in. It would be political suicide, there isn't even a majority support for the war as is, trying to conscript people would enrage the middle class in this country. Bush has said flat out there's no chance of a draft. What will happen, and is in fact happening, is that our government is being forced to choose between staying the course to ensure US economic interests in Iraq (which will create long term damage to the military resulting in a decreased ability to project our power in the future) and changing our policies to get out of there and return the right of self determination to the Iraqi people. It's finally starting to choose the later. Just look at the past. The only reason the US agreed to allow elections in the first place was the growth of the Iraqi resistance, ever since then we've been forced to do more of the right thing because of a fear to make decisions in our best interest would increase the violence against us. In this same way resistance at home, such as reduced recruitment puts the same pressure on the gov't, and me, well personally I'd much rather have the gov't be doing the right thing because not enough people will go fight, rather than because so many of our people are being killed.

But no, I guess to you we never thought of your point. Thank you so much for enlightening us.

thanks POG
by ryan Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005 at 2:29 PM

For inspiring me to enlist. After seeing how many treasonous people our nation as, I decided to enlist to counterbalance the anti-americanism. me and 5 of my friends have decided that we don't want our generation to be represented by the filth of you protestors and instead want to be known for our willingness to stand up and fight for our country. thanks again pog, 5 more enlistees ready to do the bidding of the U.S!!

thanks POG
by ryan Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2005 at 9:46 PM

For inspiring me to enlist. After seeing how many treasonous people our nation as, I decided to enlist to counterbalance the anti-americanism. me and 5 of my friends have decided that we don't want our generation to be represented by the filth of you protestors and instead want to be known for our willingness to stand up and fight for our country. thanks again pog, 5 more enlistees ready to do the bidding of the U.S!!

Ryan
by gene pool filter Wednesday, Dec. 14, 2005 at 12:42 PM

Good. Hopefully your names will be read off on the evening news with the other misguided martyrs for capitalism.

You Drones Need Watched
by George K. Saturday, Dec. 17, 2005 at 9:56 AM
dodgerambler@comcast.net

You socialist drones are suprosed that you are under surveillance? You people are so unstable, that you need to be watched at all times to prevent people from being hurt. A TASER is only too good for you.

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