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POG counter-recruitment action at CMU
by david Tuesday, Apr. 26, 2005 at 12:31 PM

A dozen activists disrupt military recruitment at Carnegie Mellon University.

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Pittsburgh, April 26, 2003 - Earlier today at Carnegie Mellon University (CMU) a dozen activists from Pittsburgh Organizing Group, including several CMU students, disrupted two Army recruiters tabling at the University Center. The group surrounded the recruiters and held up a large banner that read, "Resistance is Fertile," effectively blocking the view of the recruiters from passersby.

Participants in the action passed out counter recruitment literature and talked to students about why they were trying to disrupt the recruiters. Some even engaged the recruiters in conversation. At one point during the action, one activist grabbed the Army recruitment literature and ran off, making it even harder for the recruiters to do their thing.

CMU security called the police, who showed up within 20 minutes and threatend to arrest the activists if they did not leave. The group chanted "Recruiters off Campus!" for a minute or two and then left without incident.

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Two recruiters.
by david Tuesday, Apr. 26, 2005 at 12:31 PM

Two recruiters....
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What about bisexuals?
by david Tuesday, Apr. 26, 2005 at 12:31 PM

What about bisexuals...
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A woman asks, "can I join the Army if I'm bisexual?" One of the recruiters replied, "Our policy is 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell.'"

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A CMU student reads one of the flyers.
by david Tuesday, Apr. 26, 2005 at 12:31 PM

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Army of One what?
by david Tuesday, Apr. 26, 2005 at 12:31 PM

Army of One what?...
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Bizzaro "Army of One" army recruitment literature lies strewn across the floor.

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you are evil
by a pgher Tuesday, Apr. 26, 2005 at 10:42 PM

You know you are evil, stealing stuff, how would you like it if the arm people stole your stuff, oh want that would be injustus to you, but if you do it, it is heroic.

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by ... Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 7:12 AM

oh no. someone stole army literature.

maybe we can have a trial to prosecute the people who stole literature. better yet, along with them lets prosecute the policy makers who start wars killing thousands of innocent people around the world.

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by evil Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 7:20 AM

maybe "a pgher" needs to further his/her education rather than joining the army or hating on the demonstration. It's not "Just us," it's JUSTICE. read it as you will.

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Finally, an admission of treason by POG
by ** Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 8:42 AM

So you all support the Resistance that is actively seeking to kill American soldiers, that is everyday murdering Iraqi civilians, that has given us the brutal beheadings of innocents in Iraq.

You carry a banner, to fly in the face of the US Military representatives which reads "Resistance is Fertile". A pretty strong endorsement of the Resistance fighters who are happy to burn US citizens to death and then gruesomely drag their charred remains through the streets to be hung from a bridge.

I am happy though that you are so bold and have finally unequivocally stated your support for those that would murder American military and civilians with equal disregard for peace. To be considerate, I would venture that your sin is ignorance. However, your sin is more assuredly one of inhumanity.

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by ... Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 9:07 AM

dude, settle down. pog is an explicitly non-violent group. they only organize non-violent actions.

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by anon Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 9:14 AM

...people have been using the slogan "Resistance is Fertile" for as long as I can remember. What are you talking about?

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Their comments are ignorance
by me Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 11:09 AM

Obviously these folks don't know what they are talking about (i'm speaking about those whom support U.S.-backed genocide. Yes, its called GENOCIDE when you target a ethnic group and kill over 300,000+ of them, in two or more wars. These actions cannot be forgiven, and these folks doing counter-recruitment are doing a more 'patriotic' duty than any of you warmongers EVER will. They are actually saving American lives by stopping the recruiters from recruting more body bags to be sent home from people whom are defending their country with SALVAGED or bought (OH! the iraq/iran contra's!!!!) from US forces. We are feeding them their war and reaping the spoils, meanwhile killing everything in their way.
And for your comment regarding this group "supporting the resistance movement in iraq" You must be psychotic. For christ's sake, its a slogan used as a broad statement for resisance to the war. War is OUTDATED, and soon to be OUTMODED by the resistance within the united states and elsewhere. prepare for insurrection, motherfucker. viva la resistencia!

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POG may believe
by that they are Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 2:09 PM

nonviolent, but they are supporting the violence of the terrorists (oh, excuse me, resistance freedom fighters) in Iraq.

So does all violence have to involve assault. Violence can also be when you physically interfere with someone else's lawful and appropriaie conduct of their life. Which is what POG did to the recruiters and anyone who may have wanted to consdier the options offered by a military career. If the KKK took to interfering in this manner with a NAACP information desk, would you also call it non-violent?

The problem with the Left is that your have no intellectual or moral integrity. You are without foundation or consistency. All things must yield to your immediate political objectives, even if it is at the expense of the rights of others in this society. For, to you, if they disagree with you they must be evil adn undeserving of the least respect or dignity. They are, by their mere objection, interfering with your personal political purposes and therefor you believe yourself justified in whatever adversity you dole out upon them.

Call it what you will, but POG was attempting to impose they own views on others by interfering with the personal affairs and conduct of those people. Hypocrits is what POG is. If anyone had dare attempted to interefere with POG or any of your little hate groups in this way, there would have been jihad (no pun intended).

If this is the ignorance that passes for intellect at CMU, then I am concerned about the dimunition in the value of my degree which the current crop of CMU students is causing.

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you may believe...
by not POG Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 4:44 PM

you are supporting the violence of U.S. military and economic domination of of country that doesn't want us their. (no they don't want us there; the party that won the election had getting the US out as the 2nd point of their platform and that's not to mention the huge amount that didn't participate)

and how is POG supporting the violence of terrorists? you are missing a pretty important link in your argument... sounds to me like "if they disagree with you they must be evil adn undeserving of the least respect or dignity"

while you are at it you might want to examine the consistency of what you are defending (which I assume to be administration policy in Iraq)... liberating Iraqis by denying them the control of their oil reserves... protecting human rights by sending prisoners to other countries to be tortured... promoting democracy by not listening when the country votes for us to leave... hmmmm...

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by WOW Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2005 at 4:46 PM

You are really lost dude. Maybe you need an education or a soul or something.

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by anon Thursday, Apr. 28, 2005 at 8:02 AM

I agree with the person who said holding a banner and flyering is violent. Down with the commie islamo-fascist nazi socialist anarchist hate-filled hate-mob liberal death squad.

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lets not bother
by wtf Thursday, Apr. 28, 2005 at 9:20 AM

people, why bother to respond to these statements from right wingers that amount to pure idiocy? PURE IDIOCY. there is no arguing with people like this, who have concrete blocks for heads and broken records for mouths.

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by let's not bother Thursday, Apr. 28, 2005 at 9:56 AM


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you go there then
by m.j. Friday, Apr. 29, 2005 at 1:17 PM

If yo u warmongers think it is such a just cause then YOU GO THERE this government is spreading radioactive waste all over that country Irai womenno longer ask is it a girl or a boy when they give birth but "is it deformed?" some families have decided not to have children rather than face the horrors. It is like the line in the Bob Dylan song "Masters of War"
" You bring the worst fear that can ever be hurled-fear to bring children in to the world."
Shame on you who think killing and destroying a whole culture and it's people is fine for the sake of rich men. You are disgusting and immoral. Way to go youth! keep up the GOOD fight against these pigs that profit off the blood and bones of innocent people everywhere. And yes things are worse since we have been there-do some research-learn the truth and turn off Fox news you idiot.If tanks came rolling down your street and soldiers kicked in your door and raped your women and tortured your people you would fight back too.But maby not you probably would want the youth to die for you.

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by warm honger Friday, Apr. 29, 2005 at 4:47 PM

I tried to go there, but you pinheads had the recruitment table under seige.

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by right wing scum your time has come Sunday, May. 01, 2005 at 2:11 PM

An argument about morality is pointless with right wing assholes. Arguments of this sort will in no way convince any party involved in the debate to rethink their stance because neither side has an open mind to the others view. As i stand on the "left" side of this debate, I warn a right-winger if you voice your opinion around me, my reply will not be in verbal form. The people of Iraq are also not responding verbally to the opinions put into action by the present regime of this filthy nation. Thank God for that! Your ideas of freedom, morality, and justice are of no importance to me or others in all forms of resistance against your capitalist war machine. WE ARE TIRED OF YOUR SHIT AND WILL STRIKE BACK AT YOU WITH THE SAME FORCE!


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a regular badass, huh?
by stand clear Sunday, May. 01, 2005 at 8:37 PM

Everybody run for the hills! The baddest little goober smoocher on Mutha Gaia is in town.

Up yours, preteen freak.

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Oh the left is so enlightened
by hate monger leftist Monday, May. 02, 2005 at 1:28 AM

they are so open minded, love diversty, love peace...and if you disagree wth them then they might kick the shit out of your worthless stupid ass.

Intellectals my ass. the left is populated by selfish morons.

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what the Left is
by truthteller Monday, May. 02, 2005 at 10:22 AM

They are the single most hate filled bunch of "humans" around. They are a danger to Civilization. Every society that ever fell was because of the Leftists and their unbridled Degeneracy.

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by anon Monday, May. 02, 2005 at 10:42 AM

Protest Warriors unite! Rich college kids with big signs are leading this nation to a new tomorrow!

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by peppy Monday, May. 02, 2005 at 11:29 AM

Donna Leinwand from USA Today contacted me today, so there should be an article about this and other counter recruitment actions in that paper.

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Why I never will understand POG
by C. Monday, May. 02, 2005 at 3:50 PM

I didn't go to CMU or anything, but I don't get surrounding Army guys with a banner that says "resistance is fertile", then running off with some of their glossy paper.

Would a passer-by understand what that banner was aimed at? Or would they wonder "just what the hell is that supposed to mean?"

Is it only supposed to make sense to those insiders who "get the joke?"

Perhaps for next time, POG could have a banner explaining what they are doing, while dropping the sloganeering.

Perhaps next time, POG members won't act so juvenile as to grap some glossy paper and run off. C'mon...Army guys are from the government...They got all the glossy paper they need.

Perhaps if that happens, these stereotypes of "american hating" activists wouldn't be so strongly reinforced.

Perhaps then, we could begin to build a movement that takes itself seriously.

Until then, I will never understand POG...

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by ----- Tuesday, May. 03, 2005 at 9:06 AM

Granted the banner message could have been more on message. It's called a learning experience. The banner wasn't particularly aimed at bystandards, who couldn't really read it because of the angle anyway. It's point seemed to be to block out view of the recruiters, which it did nicely.

The people there didn't run off with the literature, but I can't say that I blame whoever did. Yes, the army can print more. But they also didn't have anymore to hand out that day, as you can see by the table. I consider that a plus.

Beyond that the main outreach tool there was flyers which were distributed to everyone who expressed interest.

I agree with part of your critique but I think even had things such as the banner been different you would still not have supported this action, which is fine. This action was a direct action to shut down the recruiters at CMU and draw attention to counter-recruitment activities. In both those respects it suceeded. Overall I think this action did much more good than harm, and has provided a valuable jumping off point for more actions.

Many in the anti-war/global justice movement have different opinions as to what are the most effective ways to organize. Since you don't seem to agree with what POG is doing I would encourage you to get involved in one of other local groups working on counter-recruitment. Both Concience and the TMC Anti-war Committee are working on more education themed campaigns. A diversity of tactics is most likely to make progress so best of luck to you in whatever endevours you do end up supporting.

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awwwwwww, aren't you just precious?
by organizer Tuesday, May. 03, 2005 at 11:27 AM

You used that word "Diversity". You get the gold star, honey.

As for organizing, since you bedwetters find guns so disgusting, therefore placing the barrel into your mouths is out of the question, so might I suggest all you hippie Appeasing freaks simply join hands and head towards the nearest cliff?

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get out
by ScreaminEagle Tuesday, May. 03, 2005 at 1:19 PM

Any anti-war /anti-american protestors should just get out of America. You don't belong here and you are not wanted here.

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right wing scum the class war will come
by durutti Tuesday, May. 03, 2005 at 3:44 PM

i'm not leaving this filthy country and its people will one day destroy everthing this country stands for. you may feel comfortable talking shit on the internet, but when the people start to rise, government supporters who wish to keep in power the destructive forces of this authorative government will be crushed, the people will associate with freedom without the say so of your dictatorship, if any regime tries to stop them, they will end it and its supporters....

right wing scum the class war will come!

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bring it on, sugah
by bring it on Tuesday, May. 03, 2005 at 5:45 PM

There's nothing to cleanse the Earth like a good purge of Degenerate hippie trash.

Bring it on, anal cravers.

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by Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 2:35 AM

great work. Here in Lansing, MI we are handing out anti-military recruiting zines called Through The Wire, to high schoolers. feel free to use them if they are of use.

they can be found at

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by Urban Guerrilla Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 7:18 AM

Hey Screamin Eagle, If I do not support this "war" (occupation) I ought to leave the country, right? That is your logic, correct? Well, I would respond (using your logic) that you go and enlist if you support this illegal war. I mean, I am only suggesting you walk the walk if you are going to talk the talk. Oh, wait, you're going to come back with "I'm too old, got a bum-leg, blah, blah" Go tell it on the mountain. I'm sick and fucking tired of the "dissent is treason" crowd. IT IS POSSIBLE TO DISAGREE WITH THIS OCCUPATION AND LOVE YOUR COUNTRY. Get your heads out of your asses and entertain the notion that the world is not black and white.

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Quote by an American
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 7:57 AM

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

-Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President (1858-1919)

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statement by another American
by another American Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 8:52 AM

Being critical of the President is fine. He catches hell for open borders with a lot of the Right, and deservedly so.

But mindless Bush bashing by hippie drones is something else again. There's hardly ever any substance to hippie protests. It's 99 percent of the time GropeandSlurp fests, a chance for sickos to get together and bug chase and score dope and hope for some face time on the TV.

"Lookit, Ma, my Appeasing face made the news. It's much more exciting than was in my padded cell."

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Been there
by ScreaminEagle Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 9:55 AM

Hey Urban Guerrilla, I am enlisted and I've been to Iraq, I didn't see you there. You just protest against what CNN. Oh wait, CNN only reports bad things and not the good things that happen.

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another statement
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 9:56 AM

"Bourgeois patriotism, as I view it, is only a very shabby, very narrow, very mercenary, and deeply antihuman passion, having for its object the preservation and maintenance of the power of the national state—that is, the mainstay of all the priveleges of the exploiters throughout the nation."
—Mikhail Bakunin

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and another
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 9:57 AM

"The man who can face vilification and disgrace, who can stand up against the popular current, even against his friends and his country when he know he is right, who can defy those in authority over him, who can take punishment and prison and remain steadfast—that is a man of courage. The fellow whom you taunt as a 'slacker' because he refuses to turn murderer—he needs courage. But do you need much courage just to obey orders, to do as you are told and to fall in line with thousands of others to the tune of general approval and the Star Spangled Banner?"
—Alexander Berkman

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by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 9:59 AM

"PATRIOT, n. One to whom the interests of a part seem superior to those of the whole. The dupe of statesmen and the tool of conquerors."
— Ambrose Bierce

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by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:00 AM

"In your reaction to an imagined attack on your country or an insult to its government, you draw closer to the herd for protection, you conform in word and deed, and you insist vehemently that everybody else shall think, speak, and act together. And you fix your adoring gaze upon the State, with a truly filial look, as upon the Father of the flock."
—Randolph Bourne

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by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:01 AM

"BOOTLICKING, n. A popular American mass participation sport which is rapidly displacing baseball as 'the national pastime.'"
—Chaz Bufe

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and another
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:02 AM

"COWARDICE, n. A charge often levelled by all-American types against those who stand up for their beliefs by refusing to fight in wars they find unconscionable, and who willingly go to prison or into exile in order to avoid violating their own consciences. These 'cowards' are to be contrasted with red-blooded, 'patriotic' youths who literally bend over, grab their ankles, submit to the government, fight in wars they do not understand (or disapprove of), and blindly obey orders to maim and to kill simply because they are ordered to do so—all to the howling approval of the all-American mob. This type of behavior is commonly termed 'courageous.'"
—Chaz Bufe

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big one!
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:05 AM

"I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the country's most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all ranks from second lieutenant to major general. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.

"I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all members of the military profession I never had an original thought until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

"Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. "I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras 'right' for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.

"During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. I was rewarded with honors, medals, and promotion. Looking back on it, I feel that I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate a racket in three city districts. The Marines operated on three continents."
—Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler (former Commandant, U.S. Marine Corps), Common Sense, November 1935

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Crane hits it on head
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:07 AM

"These stupid peasants, who, throughout the world, hold potentates on their thrones, make statesmen illustrious, provide generals with lasting victories, all with ignorance, indifference, or half-witted hatred, moving the world with the strength of their arms, and getting their heads knocked together in the name of God, the king, or the stock exchange—immortal, dreaming, hopeless asses, who surrender their reason to the care of a shining puppet, and persuade some toy to carry their lives in his purse."
—Stephen Crane, quoted by Jack London in People of the Abyss

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another one
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:09 AM

" Do not worry over the charge of treason to your masters, but be concerned about the treason that involves yourselves. Be true to yourself and you cannot be a traitor to any good cause on Earth."
—Eugene V. Debs

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last one?
by sum guy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:09 AM

"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
—Albert Einstein

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by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:10 AM

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in a final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed—those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending its money alone—it is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
—Dwight Eisenhower, Speech (1953)

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by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:11 AM

"War is delightful to those who have not experienced it."

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"attributed" who knows?
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:14 AM

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
—Hermann Goering (attributed)

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by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:15 AM

"Sure, there were lots of bodies we never identified. You know what a direct hit by a shell does to a guy. Or a mine, or a solid hit with a grenade, even. Sometimes all we have is a leg or a hunk of arm. The ones that stink the worst are the guys who got internal wounds and are dead about three weeks with the blood staying inside and rotting, and when you move the body the blood comes out of the nose and mouth. Then some of them bloat up in the sun, they bloat up so big that they bust the buttons and then they get blue and the skin peels. They don't all get blue, some of them get black. But they all stunk. There's only one stink and that's it. You never get used to it, either. As long as you live, you never get used to it. And after a while, the stink gets in your clothes and you can taste it in your mouth. You know what I think? I think maybe if every civilian in the world could smell this stink, then maybe we wouldn't have any more wars."
—Technical Sergeant Donald Haguall, 48th Quartermaster Graves Registration (quoted in Purnell's History of the Second World War)

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This guy was badass too!
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:18 AM

"It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificually induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear."
—General Douglas MacArthur, Speech, May 15, 1951

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1 from Schopenhauer (last1)
by sumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 10:19 AM

"Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority."
—Arthur Schopenhauer, Aphorisms

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by Zing Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 11:37 AM

"... and when you men get home and face and anti-war protester, look him in the eyes and shake his hand. Then, wink at his girlfriend, because she knows she's dating a pussy."
- General Franks

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HAH! Franks to take your freedoms!
by sum guy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 11:45 AM

Woah, what a guy, police state, screw the Constitution!

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Another doozey from Franks!
by zumguy Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 11:52 AM

"There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them"
-General Tommy Franks
how do those words taste sir?

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Tastes like chicken
by Zing Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 11:57 AM

I wish I was in the land of cotton,
Old times there are not forgotten,
look away, look away, look away, Dixie land.
In Dixie Land where I was born in,
Early on one frosty mornin'
look away, look away, look away, Dixie land.
I wish I was in Dixie, hooray! hooray!
In Dixie Land I'll take my stand
to live and die in Dixie,
Away, away, Away down south in Dixie,
Away, away, Away down south in Dixie!

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by revisionist Wednesday, May. 04, 2005 at 3:29 PM

"Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the United Nations to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority."
—hippie hater, Aphorisms

"Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the homosexuality to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority."
—hippie hater, Aphorisms

"Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the Appeasement Movement to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority."
—hippie hater, Aphorisms

"Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the Self Hate Movement of Diversity to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority."
—hippie hater, Aphorisms

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hippihater-so clever
by sumguy Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 4:54 AM

"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience. Our problem is that numbers of people all over the world have obeyed the dictates of the leaders of their government and have gone to war, and millions have been killed because of this obedience. . . Our problem is that people are obedient all over the world in the face of poverty and starvation and stupidity, and war, and cruelty. Our problem is that people are obedient while the jails are full of petty thieves, and all the while the grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem."
—Howard Zinn

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one more
by s.g. Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 4:56 AM

"Discipline consists in this, that the men who undergo the instruction and have followed it for a certain time are completely deprived of everything which is precious to a man—of the chief human property, rational freedom—and become submissive, machine-like implements of murder in the hands of their organized hierarchic authorities."
—Leo Tolstoy, Patriotism and Government

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by s.g. Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 4:58 AM

"To destroy governmental violence only one thing is needed: it is that people should understand that the feeling of patriotism which alone supports that instrument of violence is a rude, harmful, disgraceful, and bad feeling, and above all is immoral. It is a rude feeling because it is natural only to people standing on the lowest level of morality and expecting from other nations such outrages as they themselves are ready to inflict. It is a harmful feeling because it disturbs advantageous and joyous peaceful relations with other peoples, and above all produces that governmental organization under which power may fall and does fall into the hands of the worst men. It is a disgraceful feeling because it turns man not merely into a slave but into a fighting cock, a bull, or a gladiator, who wastes his strength and his life for objects which are not his own, but his government's. It is an immoral feeling because, instead of confessing himself a son of God . . . or even a free man guided by his own reason, each man under the influence of patriotism confesses himself the son of his fatherland and the slave of his government, and commits actions contrary to his reason and conscience."
—Leo Tolstoy, Patriotism and Government

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time to submit soldier
by sg Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 5:00 AM

"Men who can undertake to fulfill with unquestioning submission all that is decreed by men they do not know . . . cannot be rational; and the governments—that is, the men wielding such power—can still less be reasonable. They cannot but misuse such insensate and terrible power and cannot but be crazed by wielding it. For this reason peace between nations cannot be attained by this reasonable method of conventions and arbitrations so long as that submission of the peoples to governments, which is always irrational and pernicious, still continues.
But the subjection of men to government will always continue as long as patriotism exists, for every ruling power rests on patriotism—on the readiness of men to submit to power . . ."
—Leo Tolstoy, Christianity and Patriotism

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quotemongering hippie freaks
by yawn Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 8:58 AM

Are we supposed to be impressed by the spamming of Tolstoy quotes? I bet you're not 20 years old, an adolescent that's dumber than a rock, but think its the first ever to see something.

There's nothing new under the sun, little girl, and despite your self importance the world doesn't revolve around you or any other insignificant unwashed Appeaser.

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labels don't stick to me, boy.
by sumguy Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 10:01 AM

"The working masses of men and women, they and they alone, are responsible for everything that takes place, the good things and the bad things. True enough, they suffer most from a war, but it is their apathy, craving for authority, etc., that is most responsible for making wars possible. It follows of necessity from this responsibility that the working masses of men and women, they and they alone, are capable of establishing lasting peace."
—Wilhelm Reich, The Mass Psychology of Fascism

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Dumber than a rock, eh?
by s.g. Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 10:10 AM

I am not the one who crafted this ill-written passage.:

"Are we supposed to be impressed by the spamming of Tolstoy quotes? I bet you're not 20 years old, an adolescent that's dumber than a rock, but think its the first ever to see something."

"its" -possessive, as in, "The dog chases its tail."
"it's"-a contraction of, "it" & "is", as in, "It's raining today."

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idiotic hippie trash, continued
by trash spotter Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 10:41 AM

Did I strike a nerve, you zit cragged junior high freak? Is the best you can do is look for missing apostrophes?

You're inferior quality. Third world level. Low rent. Bottom shelf.

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the mass psychology of the Unwashed
by freak detector Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 10:51 AM

Do you have any quotes concerning the mass psychology of lice herders? The highly suggestive who demonize the Right for being Nationalists but all the while fellate Kofi and all the other thugs and dictators of the United Nations? Any quotes concerning the brain dead Internationalist hippie trash?

Any quotes concerning the idiocy concerning Diversity, which is nothing more than racism against whites?

Any quotes concerning homosexism?

Probably not. You're not that educated, only a mindless drone, ain't that right?

(And did I get my punctuation correct, goober smooch?)

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more labels, sigh.
by sumguy Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 11:01 AM

Instead of personal insults, i'd suggest reading the above quotes. A different perspective can be a wonderful thing. But, sadly, you'll next label me an "elitist" (favorite label applied to the informed by the ignorant) for suggesting you troglodytes enlighten yourselves. Oh well, keep on rockin' in the free world fellas!

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wonderfully different perspectives
by wonderfully different revisionist Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 11:37 AM

"Bourgeois Internationalism, as I view it, is only a very shabby, very narrow, very mercenary, and deeply antihuman passion, having for its object the preservation and maintenance of the power of the International state—that is, the mainstay of all the privileges of the exploiters throughout the World."
—hippie hater

"The man who can face vilification and disgrace, who can stand up against the popular current, even against his friends and his World when he know he is right, who can defy those in authority over him, who can take punishment and prison and remain steadfast—that is a man of courage. The fellow whom you taunt as a 'Right Winger' because he refuses to turn abortionist/murderer or homosexual or sell out his race—he needs courage. But do you need much courage just to obey orders, to do as you are told and to fall in line with thousands of others to the tune of general approval and the United Nations creed?"
—hippie hater

"PEACENIK, n. One to whom the interests of a part seem superior to those of the whole. The dupe of dictators and the tool of conquerors."
— hippie hater

"In your reaction to an imagined attack on your obsessing with the diseased sphincters of other males or an insult to your United Nations, you draw closer to the herd for protection, you conform in word and deed, you create nonsensical words like "homophobia" and "heterosexist", and you insist vehemently that everybody else shall think, speak, and act together in the name of Tolerance and Diversity. And you fix your adoring gaze upon the United Nations, with a truly filial look, as upon the Father of the flock."
—hippie hater

"ASSLICKING, n. (also homosexism, or Degeneracy). A popular international mass participation which is rapidly displacing baseball as 'the national pastime. Usually associated with Kofi Annan groupies'"
—hippie hater

"APPEASEMENT n. A charge accurately leveled by all rational and thinking types against chickenshits who stand up for their "beliefs" by refusing to even so much as support a war(s) that will topple the dictators and terrorists they are so spiritually connected to. These abject cowards, who are spiritually in harmony with the aggressor instead of the victim, are to be contrasted with red-blooded, sensible and critical thinking types in touch with their own humanity who won't bend over, grab their ankles, submit to the State, and blindly obey orders to maim and to kill simply because it's for the betterment of the Collective. This type of behavior is commonly and accurately termed 'Bedwetting.'"
—hippie hater

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so tell me, hippie hater
by s.g. Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 11:42 AM

Did we go to Iraq to (according to your Appeasement definition) 1) Topple Saddam Hussein. or 2( Fight the terrorists there? Because it it my understanding that we went to Iraq to put an end to Saddam's WMD program and at that time there were no terrorists in the equation. How do you like them apples? You sure are a revisionist, making up history as you go along.

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by sumguy Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 12:05 PM

As long as we're labeling, can I take a stab at labeling you? You're weak attempt to label me is pure speculation, because I have not betrayed my views like you have. I have only posted quotes by people with far more wisdom than you or I. But, I feel it's safe to accept you are a RACIST, HOMOPHOBE, XENOPHOBE, and quite possibly REDNECK. Well, did I do an OK job? I wasn't all that hard really, you supplied me with the material I needed.

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what you need
by quotation master Thursday, May. 05, 2005 at 2:40 PM

Why, I'm surprised at you, dumguy. I'm also an A.N.S.W.E.R. monkey, who marched in the streets many times to give aid and succor to the Butcher of Baghdad. I wanted face time, and to revel in the party atmosphere and hate America for no other reason that that it's a fad among the lice herders.

Concerning labels, why have you been posting quotes from "intellectuals" if not to reinforce labels? By the way, the world is watching, so as someone who considers itself educated, the burden is on you to PROVE that who you have quoted is any more educated than I or anyone else, and you may not use as your criteria because it's widely accepted by uneducated and highly suggestive Chomsky fellators. Since you're so "educated", let me rephrase it so even a brainless hippie bastard will comprehend:

Prove that intellectuals actually exist outside of your highly suggestive skull.

I have taken their quotes, changed only a couple of words here and there, and the end result is just as wise, just as profound, just as erudite, as anything a trash hippie can copy and paste from the Communist Manifesto. (It's telling that you have acted just as in how I reworked your quotes, your shouting "homophobe" and "xenophobe" as any U.N. drone should).

One more thing: I don't think we've done enough concerning the Middle East. I think we should rid Mother Gaia of the festering pustule that is Islam once and for all, and nuke Mecca, since it's all the ragheads would understand. (I bet your terrorist sympathizing anus just tightened up 20 f-stops, didn't it?)

But the United States has a bunch of effetes in power, so we'll kill more of our own than necessary, and every death of our own is a reason for hippie sewage to masturbate.

We now return this thread to terrorist sympathizing trash….

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listen, bigot
by sumguy Friday, May. 06, 2005 at 5:25 AM

The second you admit you are a bigot, you lose ALL credibility, that's it. You can't tell me freedom means ANYTHING to you when you'd be willing to keep people from marrying who they want, blacks out of your Fatherland etc. You have outed yourself as somebody who HATES, so don't give me bullshit reasons for this occupation like Sadaam gassing the Kurds etc. because all it is is an EXCUSE! Just like the people who "celebrate" St. Patricks Day, it's just an excuse to get loaded, I do it too. So, it is no use talking to you, you are from another time. You'd be the one 500 years ago arguing for the flat planet theory. You are a relic, your type is fading fast, even the Klan is dying out. Funny thing about people like you, you were probably rocking out to "Fat Bottom Girls" in your redneck dive, how can you like Queen when Freddy Mercury was a homosexual? You probably also like Judas Priest, once again Rob Halford is gay, you're a fucking Hypocrite. How about Jimi Hendrix? Don't tell me you can dig his music when you're an outed racist. For example, I would never buy a Michael Jackson record. Not because he sucks, or because he's black. But because he is a pedophile, he will not have my support. Get my point? You are full of contradictions and full of shit. Have a good weekend down there in Washington County or wherever it is you are from where the flags fly and the people profess to be good christians while hating everything and anything who poses a threat to their inbred, backwards ideals that should have been quashed in 1864. Good day, jackass.

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hippie hypocrisy
by inbred intellectual Friday, May. 06, 2005 at 7:57 AM

My, have I struck a nerve, sugah? Is that supposed to be something like a pre-emptive strike against me? Well, you're a little too late. I have taken your words and turned them against you, and I'm no Ward Churchill, no famous person you love to copy and paste from Bartlett's Quotations. And I don't have to be.

I have pointed you out to be everything you rail against. For one thing, you're obviously Yankee shit, still fighting the Civil War yourself, looking down your nose at redneck Southerners. Why is that? Maybe I should invent words like "Redneckophobe". Would you, as a highly suggestive moron, then elevate me to the status of an "intellectual"?

It's always so easy to show the hypocrisy of hippie pie throwers, to show that they are just as hate filled, just as bigoted, just as (Inter)nationalistic, just as phobic, as what they demonize.

You aren't educated, far from it. You don't have one original thought in your head. You're just another El Cheapo hippie, dime store material, a sloganeer whose lips are firmly attached to the needledick of Noam Chomsky because it's the kewl thing to be.

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cool things
by sg Friday, May. 06, 2005 at 8:34 AM

You mean how it's cool to be ignorant? How it's cool to be judgemental? How it's cool to be stagnant? Bigoted? Uneducated? Anti-intellectual? Man, if I am uncool because I look forward to better things for the people of this world and not to choking restrictions in my personal life then I wear "Uncool" as a badge of honor. Hey, momma's calling you for dinner, hillbilly.

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better things
by hillbilly intellectual Friday, May. 06, 2005 at 8:47 AM

So, you look for better things for this world?

Damn, if one didn't know better they'd think you were as religious as the Christians you bash.

Remember, there's nothing new under the sun. You haven't felt anything a gazillion generations before you haven't. After so may thousands upon thousands of years, you'd think the self anointed would realize that Utopia is nothing but a useless dream. As long as your brain depends on an ancient and hierarchal and territorial body you will be exactly what you proclaim to be against.

Look in the mirror and see the animal you wish to shed, and you'll see how futile hippiedom is.

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my god are you an idiot
by sg Friday, May. 06, 2005 at 9:39 AM

Yeah, hippiedom, whatever the hell that is, whatever you say. Can we agree on something? You can call me a dirty hippy or whatever and I can call you a bigot, fair? When all is said and done, i'd rather be a hippy than a shameful bigot. Over and out, getting out of work early today to go shoot me some cuhlards and maybe screw my sister. I'm getting cooler by the minute aren't I, JimBob?

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hypocrisy continued
by hippie stomper Friday, May. 06, 2005 at 10:10 AM

Are you saying that you're not a bigot?

Yeah, right....

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hummmmmmm job
by famous anus Saturday, May. 07, 2005 at 6:17 PM

"Torn and bleeding rectal tissues are delightful to those who have not experienced it."
—Elton John

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get a job
by big sarge Monday, May. 09, 2005 at 1:48 PM

i wonder how many of those protesters are related to someone that served or died protecting this fine country.i wonder how many get federal grants and loans from there hated country. i wonder how many of them would leave the country if they couldnt get all the benifits we offer. so in closing when you are driving down the road enjoying you gas guzzeling suv listening to the doors and pink floyd remember there is a soldier out there trying to give someone the same choices you take for granted. i ask one thing be original and come up with your own plan to run this country. then let me know and i will vote for you!

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I've been there
by Allamerican82nd Monday, May. 09, 2005 at 5:00 PM

Im not mad at any one and dont like to talk shit in vain over the net. I have served in Iraq and Aghfganistan.I did good things for the people of both countries.i am proud of what i did and no one can take that from me. Two years of my life i gave to my country and you call me a rapist? Beleave it or not i didnt kill any kids or rape any women.And yes i was on the front lines in both wars with the 82nd Airborne infantry.So for all of you that speak before you think i say get educated on the facts and stop trying to find something to be mad at.If you feel so strongly about stoping the war i dont think running off with army info will do the job. I know when this comes up you will all make fun and talk shit about what i have saidbut there is nothing anyone can do to talk away from the good things i did over there. I am far for a war pig but in a world of true evil war is needed some times.It sucks but its truth.Peole who have grown up without seeing a mass grave dont understand what evil is.Its easy to stay here and say how fucked up the world is according to cnn.But for those who havent seen it first hand will never understand.Im not saying that what is going on in the world right now is all good. But if both sides just keep bitching at each other nothing will get done.These protests are not the way to go.If you want to change whats going on then you must be more adult about it for God sake. Ive done my part and i sleep just fine at night.Im not a very smart guy as most of you can tell but i do know how truly evil man can be.Because of that i know that war will never go away.And i am willing at any time to go and fight for the under dog! Airborne! All the way! God heal the word so that people like me are no longer in need.

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Reactionary tactics
by real progressive Monday, May. 09, 2005 at 7:14 PM

By blocking the view of the recruiters, these demonstrators are trying to prevent them from having their right to set up up a table and give out pro-war leaflets. This tactic seems reactionary to me.

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Its freedom stupid!
by Earnhardt #1 fan Tuesday, May. 10, 2005 at 7:29 AM

These nigers and fagets dont get it. Freedom has took root in Iraq and nobody know what the good things is coming from their. Hey you attack us buddy and you better get ready for consiquinces. I think we should nuke Iraq if you really want to know what I think because of what happened on 911. Only cowerd fags and America haters denengrates our troops. Stop watching CNN and listening to Hollywood queers because they hate America to and are rich like Thersa Heinz is. You are just jealos Bush WON!!! For more years!!!!

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boohoo pussy liberal
by #1 Earnhardt fan Tuesday, May. 10, 2005 at 10:03 AM

Go and cry baby! Hilary Clinton will come and hold you dont be scared. All of America knows who is best for us and its not jew nose Kerry terrorist simpethizer. Go beg for some change now terrorist supporter let the big boys take care of what Bin Laden started.

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for more history....
by very effective Wednesday, May. 11, 2005 at 9:25 PM

What an idiot bastard. Your history speaks for itself. Everyone knows you're nothing but an idiot bastard, a pathological liar, a champion of child predators, a spammer, and mostly an idiot bastard who couldn't get hired to write filler for the Thifty Nickel if he whored for every cadaver-in-the-making bug chaser on Folsom Street.

But you keep right on with your canned responses, idiot bastard, and we'll keep slapping you around. It's the only reason you live.

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what a guy
by yeah Saturday, May. 14, 2005 at 1:54 PM

he doesn't admit to his lies, though.

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Uncommitted Pussies
by Chem Dawg Saturday, May. 14, 2005 at 5:56 PM

Dear Uncommitted Pussies

My mother is embarrassed for you. At least during the Vietnam War Protest, they had the testicular fortitude to be arrested for their beliefs. Unlike you, who as soon as the police from CMU threatened you with arrest, you left the area. By the way, you did not stop the recruiters from doing their job, as soon as you left, they pulled out more flyers from their bag and placed them on the table.

If you are a true independent media, where do you list both sides before expressing your personal opinions. Tell Brian that we say "Hi".

Before you start reporting todays event "May 14, 05" Don't forget the number of people who said that you all smelled and needed a bath and should get a job. Their numbers were larger than the 14 at the demonstration.

Remember the last words that Trotsky were "What is that you have behind your back?"

Thank you for you psuedo-intellectualism.

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What kind of people
by just wondering Saturday, May. 14, 2005 at 9:16 PM

use the word "pussies" as an insult?

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by idiot bastard detector Tuesday, May. 17, 2005 at 11:25 AM

Prove that you've been slandered. Be specific. Give examples, and don't give us any of that obfuscation about guns pointed at your head. If you're going to protest, then back up your claims, otherwise shut the fuck up. We grow tired of your childishness.

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Great Work
by Pat Thetic Wednesday, May. 18, 2005 at 11:02 AM

Great Work POG!!!!
To have a democracy we need to have at least 2 points of veiw, hopefully many many more. Thanks for having the courage to repesent another point of view and making it visible so others might have access to non-mainstream information to make up their own minds. Keep up the good work.

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where's "sumguy"
by where's "sumguy"? Friday, May. 20, 2005 at 7:23 PM

Hey, sumguy, since you're so fucking brilliant, how about you change this around a little bit. Let's change the subject of the Military to faggots. Then how would you feel?

This is actual text from a hippie sewage site called "Forsake our Troops". I'm very positive that howls of protest against the hate and bigotry from the hippies will be forthcoming.

Yeah, right.


"Our underlying problem is this: the military is a lifestyle these morons chose. What idiot risks their life for a country? It's what they chose. Hopefully, they knew in their hearts this is abusing taxpayers' money, and they enlisted anyway. So...Forsake our Troops! Let 'em die in combat-- we don't need their ilk in this country!

U.S. Soldier= Poster child for retroactive abortion"

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Free Asan Akbar
by Gritty realist Saturday, May. 21, 2005 at 7:35 AM

Free Asan Akbar...
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If more folks followed his lead, the war could end tomorrow.

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another good quote
by sumguy Sunday, May. 22, 2005 at 9:13 AM

"…though liberals do a great deal of talking about hearing other points of view, it sometimes shocks them to learn that there are other points of view."
-William F. Buckley, National Review, Jan 11, 1956.

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great american's speech
by a right thinking democrat Monday, Aug. 15, 2005 at 10:35 AM

Winning The Cultural War
Charlton Heston
February 16, 1999

Harvard Law School Forum
February 16, 1999

I remember my son when he was five, explaining to his kindergarten class what his father did for a living. 'My Daddy,' he said, 'pretends to be people.' There have been quite a few of them. Prophets from the Old and New Testaments, a couple of Christian saints, generals of various nationalities and different centuries, several kings, three American presidents, a French cardinal and two geniuses, including Michelangelo.

If you want the ceiling re-painted I'll do my best. There always seem to be a lot of different fellows up here. I'm never sure which one of them gets to talk. Right now, I guess I'm the guy.

As I pondered our visit tonight it struck me: if my Creator gave me the gift to connect you with the hearts and minds of those great men, then I want to use that same gift now to re-connect you with your own sense of liberty … your own freedom of thought ... your own compass for what is right.

Dedicating the memorial at Gettysburg, Abraham Lincoln said of America, 'We are now engaged in a great Civil War, testing whether this nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure.'

Those words are true again. I believe that we are again engaged in a great civil war, a cultural war that's about to hijack your birthright to think and say what resides in your heart. I fear you no longer trust the pulsing lifeblood of liberty inside you ... the stuff that made this country rise from wilderness into the miracle that it is.

Let me back up. About a year ago I became president of the National Rifle Association, which protects the right to keep and bear arms. I ran for office, I was elected, and now I serve ... I serve as a moving target for the media who've called me everything from 'ridiculous' and 'duped' to a 'brain-injured, senile, crazy old man'. I know ... I'm pretty old ... but I sure thank the Lord ain't senile.

As I have stood in the crosshairs of those who target Second Amendment freedoms, I've realized that firearms are not the only issue. No, it's much, much bigger than that. I've come to understand that a cultural war is raging across our land, in which, with Orwellian fervor, certain acceptable thoughts and speech are mandated.

For example, I marched for civil rights with Dr. King in 1963 -– long before Hollywood found it fashionable. But when I told an audience last year that white pride is just as valid as black pride or red pride or anyone else's pride, they called me a racist.

I've worked with brilliantly talented homosexuals all my life. But when I told an audience that gay rights should extend no further than your rights or my rights, I was called a homophobe.

I served in World War II against the Axis powers. But during a speech, when I drew an analogy between singling out innocent Jews and singling out innocent gun owners, I was called an anti-Semite.

Everyone I know knows I would never raise a closed fist against my country. But when I asked an audience to oppose this cultural persecution, I was compared to Timothy McVeigh.

From Time magazine to friends and colleagues, they're essentially saying, 'Chuck, how dare you speak your mind. You are using language not authorized for public consumption!'

But I am not afraid. If Americans believed in political correctness, we'd still be King George's boys-subjects bound to the British crown.

In his book, 'The End of Sanity,' Martin Gross writes that 'blatantly irrational behavior is rapidly being established as the norm in almost every area of human endeavor. There seem to be new customs, new rules, new anti-intellectual theories regularly foisted on us from every direction. Underneath, the nation is roiling. Americans know something, without a name is undermining the nation, turning the mind mushy when it comes to separating truth from falsehood and right from wrong. And they don't like it.'

Let me read a few examples. At Antioch college in Ohio, young men seeking intimacy with a coed must get verbal permission at each step of the process from kissing to petting to final copulation ... all clearly spelled out in a printed college directive.

In New Jersey, despite the death of several patients nationwide who had been infected by dentists who had concealed their AIDS -- the state commissioner announced that health providers who are HIV-positive need not ... need not ... tell their patients that they are infected.

At William and Mary, students tried to change the name of the school team 'The Tribe' because it was supposedly insulting to local Indians, only to learn that authentic Virginia chiefs truly like the name.

In San Francisco, city fathers passed an ordinance protecting the rights of transvestites to cross-dress on the job, and for transsexuals to have separate toilet facilities while undergoing sex change surgery.

In New York City, kids who don't speak a word of Spanish have been placed in bilingual classes to learn their three R's in Spanish solely because their last names sound Hispanic.

At the University of Pennsylvania, in a state where thousands died at Gettysburg opposing slavery, the president of that college officially set up segregated dormitory space for black students.

Yeah, I know ... that's out of bounds now. Dr. King said 'Negroes.' Jimmy Baldwin and most of us on the March said 'black.' But it's a no-no now.

For me, hyphenated identities are awkward ... particularly 'Native-American.' I'm a Native American, for God's sake. I also happen to be a blood-initiated brother of the Miniconjou Sioux. On my wife's side, my grandson is a thirteenth generation Native American ... with a capital letter on 'American.'

Finally, just last month ... David Howard, head of the Washington D.C. Office of Public Advocate, used the word 'niggardly' while talking to colleagues about budgetary matters. Of course, 'niggardly' means stingy or scanty. But within days Howard was forced to publicly apologize and resign.

As columnist Tony Snow wrote: 'David Howard got fired because some people in public employ were morons who (a) didn't know the meaning of niggardly,' (b) didn't know how to use a dictionary to discover the meaning, and (c) actually demanded that he apologize for their ignorance.'

What does all of this mean? It means that telling us what to think has evolved into telling us what to say, so telling us what to do can't be far behind. Before you claim to be a champion of free thought, tell me: Why did political correctness originate on America's campuses? And why do you continue to tolerate it? Why do you, who're supposed to debate ideas, surrender to their suppression?

Let's be honest. Who here thinks your professors can say what they really believe? It scares me to death, and should scare you too, that the superstition of political correctness rules the halls of reason.

You are the best and the brightest. You, here in the fertile cradle of American academia, here in the castle of learning on the Charles River, you are the cream. But I submit that you, and your counterparts across the land, are the most socially conformed and politically silenced generation since Concord Bridge.

And as long as you validate that ... and abide it ... you are-by your grandfathers' standards-cowards. Here's another example. Right now at more than one major university, Second Amendment scholars and researchers are being told to shut up about their findings or they'll lose their jobs. Why? Because their research findings would undermine big-city mayor's pending lawsuits that seek to extort hundreds of millions of dollars from firearm manufacturers.

I don't care what you think about guns. But if you are not shocked at that, I am shocked at you. Who will guard the raw material of unfettered ideas, if not you? Who will defend the core value of academia, if you supposed soldiers of free thought and expression lay down your arms and plead, 'Don't shoot me.'

If you talk about race, it does not make you a racist. If you see distinctions between the genders, it does not make you a sexist. If you think critically about a denomination, it does not make you anti-religion. If you accept but don't celebrate homosexuality, it does not make you a homophobe.

Don't let America's universities continue to serve as incubators for this rampant epidemic of new McCarthyism. But what can you do? How can anyone prevail against such pervasive social subjugation?

The answer's been here all along. I learned it 36 years ago, on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C., standing with Dr. Martin Luther King and two hundred thousand people.

You simply ... disobey. Peaceably, yes. Respectfully, of course. Nonviolently, absolutely. But when told how to think or what to say or how to behave, we don't. We disobey social protocol that stifles and stigmatizes personal freedom.

I learned the awesome power of disobedience from Dr. King ... who learned it from Gandhi, and Thoreau, and Jesus, and every other great man who led those in the right against those with the might.

Disobedience is in our DNA. We feel innate kinship with that Disobedient spirit that tossed tea into Boston Harbor, that sent Thoreau to jail, that refused to sit in the back of the bus, that protested a war in Viet Nam.

In that same spirit, I am asking you to disavow cultural correctness with massive disobedience of rogue authority, social directives and onerous law that weaken personal freedom.

But be careful ... it hurts. Disobedience demands that you put yourself at risk. Dr. King stood on lots of balconies. You must be willing to be humiliated ... to endure the modern-day equivalent of the police dogs at Montgomery and the water Cannons at Selma. You must be willing to experience discomfort. I'm not Complaining, but my own decades of social activism have taken their toll on me. Let me tell you a story.

A few years back I heard about a rapper named Ice-T who was selling a CD called 'Cop Killer' celebrating ambushing and murdering police officers. It was being marketed by none other than Time/Warner, the biggest entertainment conglomerate in the world. Police across the country were outraged. Rightfully so-at least one had been murdered. But Time/Warner was stonewalling because the CD was a cash cow for them, and the media were tiptoeing around it because the rapper was black. I heard Time/Warner had a stockholders meeting scheduled in Beverly Hills. I owned some shares at the time, so I decided to attend.

What I did there was against the advice of my family and colleagues. I asked for the floor. To a hushed room of a thousand average American stockholders, I simply read the full lyrics of 'Cop Killer'-every vicious, vulgar, instructional word.


It got worse, a lot worse. I won't read the rest of it to you. But trust me, the room was a sea of shocked, frozen, blanched faces. The Time/Warner executives squirmed in their chairs and stared at their shoes. They hated me for that. Then I delivered another volley of sick lyric brimming with racist filth, where Ice-T fantasizes about sodomizing two 12-year old nieces Of Al and Tipper Gore. SHE PUSHED HER BUTT AGAINST MY ....'

Well, I won't do to you here what I did to them. Let's just say I left the room in echoing silence. When I read the lyrics to the waiting press corps, one of them said 'We can't print that.' 'I know,' I replied, 'but Time/Warner ís selling it.'

Two months later, Time/Warner terminated Ice-T's contract. I'll never be offered another film by Warners, or get a good review from Time magazine. But disobedience means you must be willing to act, not just talk.

When a mugger sues his elderly victim for defending herself ... jam the switchboard of the district attorney's office. When your university is pressured to lower standards until 80% of the students graduate with honors ... choke the halls of the board of regents. When an 8-year-old boy pecks a girl's cheek on the playground and gets hauled into court for sexual harassment ... march on that school and block its doorways. When someone you elected is seduced by political power and betrays you ... petition them, oust them, banish them. When Time magazine's cover portrays millennium nuts as deranged, crazy Christians holding a cross as it did last month ... boycott their magazine and the products it advertises.

So that this nation may long endure, I urge you to follow in the hallowed footsteps of the great disobediences of history that freed exiles, founded religions, defeated tyrants, and yes, in the hands of an aroused rabble in arms and a few great men, by God's grace, built this country.

If Dr. King were here, I think he would agree.

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play the same card
by rolly Friday, Dec. 23, 2005 at 1:55 AM

If Dr. King were here, I think he would agree.

no he would not.this must be a white boy

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Rolly gotta be a ...
by George K. Friday, Dec. 23, 2005 at 4:25 AM

Rolly gotta be a "boy", plain and simple. Typical of an person of lesser intellect.

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