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Critical Mass arrests
by Pittsburgh IMC Friday, Apr. 25, 2003 at 6:54 PM
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Arrests have been reported from this evening's critical mass bike ride.

According to reports given to the IMC over the phone and in person, at least one arrest was made at tonight's critical mass bike ride. The arrest took place at the corner of Baum & Craig in Oakland. The ride was followed from Fifth and Craft by police. At Fifth and Bigelow, police threatened to cite those who didn't get into the right lane. At Craig and Baum, two police cars blocked the intersection, and police surrounded the ride. They threatened to arrest anyone who didn't show ID. Most of the ride turned around and dispersed, and at least one person was arrested.

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two arrests
by etta Friday, Apr. 25, 2003 at 7:24 PM

two people were arrested.
two other folks went to go call the jail.
and to see what the status is.

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What?????
by Theo Saturday, Apr. 26, 2003 at 12:10 AM
TheoK444@aol.com

They arrested people for riding bikes in the streets? What the fuck? Have the police in this city totally lost their minds? What were the arrestees charged with? Does anybody know?

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by . Saturday, Apr. 26, 2003 at 1:15 AM

Here's a newflash for all you "let's come up with creative ways to get in peoples' ways!" types:

Blocking rodes is illegal! Even if done on foot, bike, or in cars! If I'm going 2mph down forbes, I'm going to get pulled over and arrested if I don't stop! I was unlucky enough to get stuck behind your little "get in the way of people with jobs" festival last month and I'm bouncing off walls, that's how I excited I am that they arrested some of you sacks of shit. Next month they should just seize all your bikes and donate them to goodwill!

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widdle cwy baby
by sack of shit Saturday, Apr. 26, 2003 at 1:42 AM

geez, thats funny, everyday at about 8 in the morning and again at 5ish, i ride my bike and get stuck behind all of these cars that are blocking the streets. each one only carrying one person. maybe if you sacks of shit didn't drive so damn much you'd pull your suv out of your ass and realize that YOU are the problem, dot boy. we deal with your traffic EVERY day, once a month you got to deal with ours, relax. road rage kills asshole.

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busses can eat my tires
by suzy ippolito Thursday, May. 01, 2003 at 2:07 PM
kyryn@excite.com

ya know, they wanna cut the hours busses run, we have no subway, and we are supposed to be a major city??? we try to alleviate traffic, the city of pittsburgh promotes it.
how about some money going to create bike lanes, if they don't want us "in the way". ever see the add on the PAT busses, to safely stow your bikes on the bus, to get to the trails??? talk about intimidation, portrayed by the bus driver about to mow another one of us down. we use bikes as transportation, not just exercise and recreation.
this harrassment is a load of crap.

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busses can eat my tires
by suzy ippolito Thursday, May. 01, 2003 at 2:09 PM
kyryn@excite.com

ya know, they wanna cut the hours busses run, we have no subway, and we are supposed to be a major city??? we try to alleviate traffic, the city of pittsburgh promotes it.
how about some money going to create bike lanes, if they don't want us "in the way". ever see the add on the PAT busses, to safely stow your bikes on the bus, to get to the trails??? talk about intimidation, portrayed by the bus driver about to mow another one of us down. we use bikes as transportation, not just exercise and recreation.
this harrassment is a load of crap.

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The right thing to do.
by Ellie Thursday, May. 01, 2003 at 2:32 PM

I would like the Police to be more aggressive in dealing with cyclists who put the live of others in jeopardy by ignoring traffic regulations and hogging the road like the world owes them something. Impound their bicycles, and levy stiff fines against them if they can't obey the law. And keep doing it until they stop ! That should break up these stupid "gang rides" that inhibit the important daily travel of hard working, taxpaying citizens. I think it's also important to pass legislation that requires cyclists to wear helmets and other safety gear when riding, and additional laws requiring bicycle safety inspections. If they want to ride on the streets, citizens should be certain that they pose no risk to the lives of others who use the roadways.

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Research Annalyst
by MDK Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 9:17 AM

Ellie,
You're not the only one who pays taxes, sweetheart. I'm hard working as well. What do you do for a living? I work in
AIDS research. I also ride a bike. So, as a member of this community, I suggest you stop thinking of people who are concerned with cycling as a very real means of transportation as slackers, and lazy. When was the last time you biked to work? Motorists need to pay attention. Have you ever been hit by a car while standing at a stop light, obeying the law, while riding a bike? My guess is no. Peace.

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OOOOHHHHH EEXXCCCUUUUUUUSSSE MMMMEEEEE!!
by 2 beers Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 10:06 AM

Oh, you work in AIDS Research so you are sssooooomuch more important that Ellie. You are a "Research Analyst" and you ride a bike so everyone out of your way 'cause you are im'potant. Your time is FAR MORE valuable than the time that you and the other idiots cause us to waste as they tie up traffic. So when you were out there having your little important cycle-fest gang bang, were you on your way to your oh so important job, or were you trying to tie up traffic to make a political statement. I don't see what the heck your exaulted position as an AIDS researcher has to do with a group of people doing nothing more than inconveniencing the rest of the world so that they can flaunt their self-importance. What if every K Car driving schmuck with some "lesser" position in society (say maybe mailclerk, secretary or athletes foot researcher) decided to drive real slow in large packs crowding you out of the bike lane while you were on your way to your grand position of worth and stature. I'll bet you would be here bitchin' and moanin' about how these low lifes in last century transaxle pollution generators where a menace to society. Do the petrie dishes really need to be washed that badly that you can be so arrogant and condescending to poor Ellie? I got a news flash for you fool, you are no more important or valuable to society than any secretary, locker room attendent, deli clerk, police officer, nurse, truck driver, or unpaid history department research assistant.

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Cars Kill
by Kill Cars Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 10:10 AM

Oh you silly oil addicts in denial. How can I make it any clearer that cars have no civil rights, despite the amount of public space and funding devoted soley to these lethal inanimate objects.
Remember, you support state and religious terror everytime you gas up.

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Car don't ahve rights, People have rights
by 2 beers Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 12:52 PM

and people drive cars. We are not talking about you idiots making all of the CARS wait. We are worried about the people in the cars. Or woudl you rather that all of thsoe people walked so tht you could further incovenience them by imposing your socio-poitical beliefs upon them. Or maybe they could all ride bikes and then things would really be better. It woudl be just like one fo those third world nations that you leftists love to love. That would be grand. We could all ride our bikes to the airport for our next vacation flight to Florida. Maybe after 6 days and grandma's fatal heart attack on the way there we would actually get to the airport.

DEATH TO THE BIKES. FREE THE CARS.

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Aggression
by Any Biker Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 2:48 PM

Hey 2 beers... One, I suggest you lay off the alcohol for a while. I have no moral problem with personal use of controlled substances - but on that same not, I have yet to meet anyone out there who's opinion I value who's nickname revolves around some sort of psychoactive substance.

In any case, lets get some things straight 2 beers... Bicyclists have the same right to the road as cars do. Due to the fact that cyclists do not have engines to propel them along, they simply cannot move at the speed of traffic. Sorry, thats the breaks - but thats doesn't mean cyclists need to vacate the roadways. For many, cycling is their only way to commute. A bicycle is far less expensive and safer to travel with than a car. Yeah, yeah... You can say how you're protected by a sheath of metal around you in your car... Great. Just take a look at the statistics of how many deaths/mile of car use as compared to the deaths/mile of bicycle use. And this isn't even considering the deaths due to obesity from inactivity or from the emissions that we are all forced to breathe. But I'm preaching to the converted right now, for no matter what I say you'll always believe that sitting in a polluting box, exiling yourself from society while you sit in, and contribute to, traffic that only fuels your anger is superior to my smiling, pedaling self.

My real reason for responding to you is your last statement of aggresiveness towards bikes, and thus cyclists. Keep it in mind that there are plenty of cyclists out there who are not going to take aggresive action by a motorist lightly. I carry a u-lock for a variety of reasons, one of which is to conveniently damage any aggresive motorist's car who crossed the line. Next time you feel the urge to make an aggresive move towards a cyclist while in your car, remember this. And I'll likely be able to catch you at the next redlight - where I will proceed to kick your ass for all to see. All those miles end up building a pretty fit physique, one that I'm sure you don't want to deal with. You may consider this as a direct threat 2 beers.

While I completely believe in non-violence, self defence is permissable in my mind.

It is in your hands. Don't use your 2000+lb automobile aggresively towards me, and your face won't meet the other end of my u-lock.

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Aggression
by Anon Biker Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 2:48 PM

Hey 2 beers... One, I suggest you lay off the alcohol for a while. I have no moral problem with personal use of controlled substances - but on that same not, I have yet to meet anyone out there who's opinion I value who's nickname revolves around some sort of psychoactive substance.

In any case, lets get some things straight 2 beers... Bicyclists have the same right to the road as cars do. Due to the fact that cyclists do not have engines to propel them along, they simply cannot move at the speed of traffic. Sorry, thats the breaks - but thats doesn't mean cyclists need to vacate the roadways. For many, cycling is their only way to commute. A bicycle is far less expensive and safer to travel with than a car. Yeah, yeah... You can say how you're protected by a sheath of metal around you in your car... Great. Just take a look at the statistics of how many deaths/mile of car use as compared to the deaths/mile of bicycle use. And this isn't even considering the deaths due to obesity from inactivity or from the emissions that we are all forced to breathe. But I'm preaching to the converted right now, for no matter what I say you'll always believe that sitting in a polluting box, exiling yourself from society while you sit in, and contribute to, traffic that only fuels your anger is superior to my smiling, pedaling self.

My real reason for responding to you is your last statement of aggresiveness towards bikes, and thus cyclists. Keep it in mind that there are plenty of cyclists out there who are not going to take aggresive action by a motorist lightly. I carry a u-lock for a variety of reasons, one of which is to conveniently damage any aggresive motorist's car who crossed the line. Next time you feel the urge to make an aggresive move towards a cyclist while in your car, remember this. And I'll likely be able to catch you at the next redlight - where I will proceed to kick your ass for all to see. All those miles end up building a pretty fit physique, one that I'm sure you don't want to deal with. You may consider this as a direct threat 2 beers.

While I completely believe in non-violence, self defence is permissable in my mind.

It is in your hands. Don't use your 2000+lb automobile aggresively towards me, and your face won't meet the other end of my u-lock.

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3rd world?
by Kill Cars Wednesday, Jun. 25, 2003 at 3:02 PM

By third world do you mean western Europe, since the majority of folks there have the good sense not to get mixed up in the dangerous pyramid scheme of combustion engine ownership.
Please post your make model and license number.
2 beers is over the legal limit.

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Say what?
by 2 beers Thursday, Jun. 26, 2003 at 7:28 AM

I'm over the limit, but you are the one repeating yourself and you can't even remember your name.

I think if you followed anyone to the stop light for the purposes of beating their ass that would be criminal assault, not self defense. And about my "violent" threats, the last statement of my posting was meant in response to the person who first posted violent threats against cars, Mr. Kill Cars. It isn't a problem when a biker is riding alone, but when you all purposefully go out to ride in large groups across all traffic lanes and ride real slow it is certainly a problem (and a violation of those same traffic laws that you like to quote). Also, I really don't think I ever said that I intended violence against anyone, but you AIDS researchers and other bike riders must be breathing too many exhaust fumes because your reading comprehension and analytical skills are shot.

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2 balls or beers is a whiny liberal
by Kill Cars Friday, Jun. 27, 2003 at 6:24 PM

You sound like the pathetic leftists who insist that moving a paper machine or dumpster is violence. If a person much more motivated and proactive that I could ever be were to serve you a Molotov cocktail, that would be violent, even if it would make the world just a little better. If a tasty beverage were to be thrown at your unoccupied vehicle, that would not be violent.
Hurting living things is violent, hurting objects is not. It's not that difficult to understand.
Sell your SUV and buy a penis pump. Judging from your 2balls remarks about women and your riot cop fantasies of hitting folks with your 'stick' and spraying them with your 'hose', you seem disatisfied with what the creator endowed you with. Don't worry, people wear pants outside, and nobody will notice.

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SO to you, Krystalnacht was just ..
by 2 beers Sunday, Jun. 29, 2003 at 5:08 PM

a gentle political statement by some motivated and proactive political activisits just trying to communicate their message, and was not a violent frenzy. Violent conduct is violence whether you are breaking windows or breaking bones. Quit lying to yourself just to rationalize your own anti-social behavior. No message other than a message of hate, violence and reckless rage is ever communicate by destructive acts. Overturning a dumpster (in addition to being a rather grotesque form of littering) or throwing newspaper boxes into the streets (in addition to creating a hazard to a public thoroughfare) are all acts of violence against the community. It carries nothing but a message of disrespect, hate adn contempt. It is the best evidence that the right (or anyone else) has to demonstrate that the left can not communicate its message without hate, oppression, fear and intimidation. Kind of like that non-violent protest by some other more motivated and proactive political demonstraters in brown shirts nearly 70 years ago. Peace Man !!!

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What could I expect
by Kill Cars Sunday, Jun. 29, 2003 at 11:02 PM

An advocate of sexual assault and running down cyclists equating non-violent direct action and/or self defense with persecution of a religious and ethinic minority. How long did it take you to come up with that?
When post 9/11, people like you attacked Arabs or brown people in general and their property, that was Krystalnacht, and you applauded, if not participated, like the cops in Mt. Oliver who watched the Arab business have it's windows broken.
It's not worth explaing to a caricature.
P.S. Automobiles are the leading cause of death for on-duty police officers and kill more peolpe every year than died in Vietnam. But what do you care? Property is more valuable than life.

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