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Rich Mackin Meeting
by elina
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 3:23 AM
ebm@andrew.cmu.edu
Meeting at 2PM TODAY (April 1) to discuss Rich Mackin's talk at 1877
Several days ago, the members of Project 1877 voted to allow Rich Mackin to speak at our space as long as he agreed to address the issue of sexual assault and as long as we had a workshop on sexual assault after his talk. In light of the information about Rich that was made public this weekend, we are reconsidering our decision to allow him to use our space. Please come to Project 1877 on April 1 at 2PM if you want to discuss this issue and help to plan an alternate workshop. You can also e-mail your views on the issue to info@cease.info.
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The following email was sent to me by a friend urging an emergency meeting about the Rich Mackin show on Wednesday, April 2nd at 2pm. Because so many people are rising up to show support against this show we have decided to call a meeting to decide whether or not to continue with the show. We will also be planning alternative events for that evening if the consensus is to ban him from our space. Please come so that we can peacefully resolve this issue.
Thank you,
Branden Dudek
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I feel that some things have changed drastically in the Rich Mackin situation over the weekend and I want to call another meeting to rediscuss our decision to let him speak.
At least five women have come out publicly to accuse Rich of sexual assault, including rape. More women are coming forward every day. Several of these women have created a 'zine about their experiences with Rich and have drafted a letter adressed to spaces hosting his tour asking communities to not allow him to speak as an act of solidarity with the survivors of his attacks. These women have confronted Rich and asked him to cancel his tour and to take immediate action to deal with his serious problem. Rich has not honored this.
It seems clear to me that Rich is a real threat to women. The women that he has abused have not only been strong enough to speak out about it, but are now planning to follow his tour and to block him from entering spaces where he is sceduled to speak. I am in full support of these survivors, and if our space does not officially cancel Rich's talk, I will support and help them in physically keeping him out of 1877. I hope that neither I nor they have to resort to this, and I hope that our community can join as a whole to support these women. I feel that this is no longer an issue of free speach and censorship, but an issue of safety for every community that Rich effects. As much as I don't want to shun him and consider him hopeless, I feel that supporting the survivors of his attacks, and making sure that more attacks don't happen, is much more important.
-elina
Debate on Mackin from his hometown
by John
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 1:27 PM
The following link goes to a discussion about Mr. Mackin and his issues taking place among Boston scenesters (i.e., people who actually know him). It may be helpful to the situation at hand for anyone who hasn't read it yet.
www.livejournal.com/users/richmackin/230059.html
live journals do not reflect life
by doc
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 3:15 PM
the link above is to Rich Mackin's live journal on the web.
Mr. Mackin controls the content of this journal, so it cannot be considered a representation of the Boston situation. It is his presentation of these.
Given his pattern of assaultive and manipulative behavior, I feel that I cannot rely on any of the writing on this page.
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by .
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 3:18 PM
He controls the journal, but not the comments people post to it. I think that's what was being linked to. The comments are actually pretty informative. Especially since the people making these accusations can't even be bothered to tell Rich who they're claiming he assaulted or what happened.
witch hunt
by 2balls
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 4:40 PM
FREE RICH MAKIN !
It's Time.
by 2balls
Tuesday, Apr. 01, 2003 at 4:45 PM
FREE RICH MAKIN !
Clarification
by John
Wednesday, Apr. 02, 2003 at 4:03 PM
johncihon@yahoo.com
Although it may be a moot point now, I want to point out that my link was to discussion of Mr. Mackin's journal by people who seemed to know him. I would disagree with the other poster who seemed to think that these comments absolutely absolved Mr. Mackin, but if you care, you should probably read the thing yourself.
zine
by matt
Wednesday, Apr. 02, 2003 at 5:00 PM
if you want to know exactly what they're accusing him of, get their zine.
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by .
Wednesday, Apr. 02, 2003 at 6:45 PM
matt...WHAT ZINE?!?! This entire lynch mob process has been so devoid of factual information we don't even know the name of the zine they've put out about Rich!!! At this point I'm actually questioning if any of these people actually exist!
baby, im a manarchist.
by your mom, your sister, your aunt, your cousin
Thursday, Apr. 03, 2003 at 1:54 PM
the zine is called baby im a manarchist & these people are all members of the boston radical community.. who wont put up with this shit anymore!
INDIVIDUAL RIGHT WILL NOT PUT UP WITH THIS ANY MORE.
by No name for fear of reprisal or slander
Thursday, Apr. 03, 2003 at 3:11 PM
1. You threaten Mr. Mackin with economic and physical harm if your demands are not met, none of which include doing the proper thing if he is truly guilty of the terrible acts you accuse him of (that would be taking him to criminal court). (see the letter at top of this string) .
2. You have not offered ANY description of ANY action that would constitute the crimes you accuse him of.
3. Someone actually put together a 'zine for the pupose of slandering this guy?! Can you say "Trial Lawyer Bonanza"? And that together with your statements here and that is exacy what Mr. Mackin has if these things that you accuse him of are not supported by fact (as they so far seem to be).
4. This is nothing more than a lynch mob. Someone PLEASE go file a criminal complaint against Mr Mackin with the evidence you say exists OR STOP THIS DEPLORABLE CONDUCT OF ASSAULTING THIS GUY'S LIFE.
5. Tell me where you stop. will you call my defense of Mr. Mackin "sexist" or somethng more damning and then come after me like this? Should I call you "homophobic" because I am gay and the natural progression of you mob mentality could just as easily be used to brand me a"pedophile" just because that is what someone thinks all gay men are and that they make children uncomfortable? What you are doing is trying to take justice into your own hands and are raping the concept of justice in the process. To hell with you 'consensus' bullshit. That only confirms that you are lynch mob.
6, PLEASE STOP THIS NOW.
Irony
by Mark
Thursday, Apr. 03, 2003 at 5:21 PM
I love it, when individuals sue corporations, conservatives speak of tort reform. When women begin to defend themselves, these same people immediately call for a lawyer.
Face it, people calling for a lawyer are acting just like the annoying rich 14 year old who would threaten to sue anyone who called him a name or pushed him around. Well, maybe this isn't a cultural standard, but I saw it a lot where I grew up. Either way, quit acting like middleschoolers.
I feel 1877 made the right decision, went about the problem the right way, and showed how strong the community can be. It's one thing to disagree, it's another thing to start screaming about lawyers.
THE RIGHT THING? LAWYERS?
by No name for fear of reprisal or slander
Thursday, Apr. 03, 2003 at 6:20 PM
First of all I am not a conservative. I am also not an anarchist. I AM: gay, white, democrat (registered), Virgo, and radical support of individual liberties and rights (such as free speech). So I allow you to make of that information what you want, but given the way you were so quick to wrongly judge me for my last posting I am afraid how you might wrongly use that information. In fact you really, really scare me. Project1877 was terribly horribly wrong in the way that it handled this matter You all have been doing nothing but slandering this man.
You tell me that I am like some corporate thief using lawyers unjustly. But Mr Mackin needs legal help before his life is ruined. Have you thought about what you all are doing? Have you ever known the wrath of the irrational mob? Should an organizatin be allowed to by consensus shun orbanjsh a man because someone finds his same sex overture (real or imagined) to make them uncomfortable? By the standard you have created you validate the tyranny of the majority. You are very dangerous. I hope that 1877 will accept its responibility here. As a gay man who has seen the mob mentality that you showed inyour treatment of Mr. Ma ckin I know how dangerous this can be and that it is not at all hoe a community works, at least not one I want to be a member of. I hope that hers see this and will show there opposition to this conduct by not supporting Project 1877.
I have read the message boards and felt filthy and shameful, as if I were standing by and watching a hanging or a witch burning. To some, I may even be a witch for them to burn. Just as Mr. Mackin was sacrificed on your self-righteousness and disregard for justice (to some, I guess that is anarchy and activism).
i have that zine
by friend
Tuesday, Apr. 15, 2003 at 6:56 PM
the "baby i'm a manarchist" zine is astounding.
sexism and assault in this movement CANNOT be tolerated, and these women have repeatedly asked this man to get professional help, to acknowledge that he is a danger. the court system would not provide adequate justice; any radical knows that. the women in question gave rich all the credit he deserved -- and a whole lot more -- and he refused to take them seriously.
he "admitted he had a problem" and then blamed the women he assaulted, underhandedly. the damage he has caused is irreparable. the women needed to force him to change in a manner he had to heed. and this has accomplished it.
as a womyn radical i am sick and tired of the blatant assumption that radicals cannot be sexist and would not assault. it's disgusting that patterns of blame within the radical community -- blame the women who are trying to speak out against being violated! -- should be the same as in the patriarchal world.
womyn assaulted, my heart goes out to you. all the strength.
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by .
Tuesday, Apr. 15, 2003 at 7:33 PM
the "baby i'm a manarchist" zine is astounding.
Really? I'd love to read it. Maybe you "womyn" radicals could read up on this radical new idea called "a web site"
sexism and assault in this movement CANNOT be tolerated, and these women have repeatedly asked this man to get professional help, to acknowledge that he is a danger. the court system would not provide adequate justice; any radical knows that. the women in question gave rich all the credit he deserved -- and a whole lot more -- and he refused to take them seriously.
I agree it shouldn't be tolerated. But I disagree that when the court system fails us we need to take justice into our own hands. I think all the screaming about "we have to support the victims" is distracting us from the real issue...that is WE HAVE TO DEMAND FAIRNESS. I don't think anyone on this site would even think of suggesting they don't support sex assault victims, but that doesn't mean we don't support the right of a human being to be fairly judged on the facts, none of which have ever been presented anywhere that I can see. Hell, for all we know the zine is filled with fabricated half-truths and BS.
he "admitted he had a problem" and then blamed the women he assaulted, underhandedly. the damage he has caused is irreparable. the women needed to force him to change in a manner he had to heed. and this has accomplished it.
So were all the sexual assaults similar to the one posted on here? Because when you're in a relationship with someone and you keep pushing for sex and they eventually give in and say "ok" that's not sexual assault, and if that happened to me I'd blame it on the woman too. If you don't want to have sex, just keep saying no and leave!
as a womyn radical i am sick and tired of the blatant assumption that radicals cannot be sexist and would not assault. it's disgusting that patterns of blame within the radical community -- blame the women who are trying to speak out against being violated! -- should be the same as in the patriarchal world.
As a male radical I'm sick and tired of the blatant assumption that "womyn" would never lie about rape. If you honestly think we should just believe anyone claiming to have been sexually assaulted I'm sure there's a few dead slaves who "raped" their owner's daughter who would like to talk with you.
womyn assaulted, my heart goes out to you. all the strength.
My heart goes out to the estimated 10,000 men in jail on sex assault charges who are innocent.
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by .
Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 9:02 AM
as a male radical I'm sick and tired of hearing from you.
Nothing has happened to Mr. Mackin other than the cancelling of his performance, which was his idea anyway. As for the name calling and so called 'slander'... that happenes everywhere.
Tuffcop said that we were throwing rocks at him, an outright lie. Posters on this site all the time call us, un-american, hippies, criminals, etc. so don't worry too much about what someone says on the interweb. Emotions get heated and things get thrown about.
Mr. Mackin was not welcome at 1877, because he made some people uncomfortable there, he understands why he was making people uncomfortable, and himself did not claim that it was unfair.
You're Right
by =
Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 10:01 AM
You are absolutely right that the courts could not adequately address the issue ...BECAUSE NO CRIME WAS COMMITTED.
So it sounds like the guy is guilty of being a guy. Why don't you do a "'zine" about Jimmy Kimmel or some other caddish terminally-guy guy? These institutionalized oversensitivities are nothing more than a weakness disguised as radical belief. Maybe when you "womyn" wake up and stop seeing the boogy man in every shadow or in every gender specific behavior you will actually recognize that you have some power and that you really were equal all along. Maybe you think people treat you differently because they do...they do not want to be around your whining adn have to live with the possibility that they are going to violate some new definition of rape or genocide. The rules are always changing for your benefit depending on how the game is going.
And if you still think that Rich Mackin wasn't unjustly maligned on these pages you must be on drugs. Read the posts of people that were opposed to him. He was presented as if he had committed these crimes. Adn then Project 1877 gave credence to those unfounded allegations in their presentation of the determination to ban him from their space. OF COURSE, the guy chose not to come here ... you people were threatening to physically keep him out the space (something that apparently was an acceptabel action to Project 1877).
Guess what, over at the newly formed Project 2003 we had a meeting and the consensus was that the haters and lynch-mob over at Project 1877 had no respect for indivdual rights, civil rights or respect for undestanding in society. In otherwords our consensus is that Project 1877 is an organization built by hateful people who only want to cause more division in the community, and that many of them are sexist and transphobic (having a fear of change). We have all tried to talk to them here about their disrespect for justice and understadning, which can not be tolerated in the radical community. But Project 1877 and its supporters have not addressed the problem or taken steps to corrected their unacceptable behavior.
you're right
by .
Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 10:29 AM
someone should do a 'zine about Kimmel and all that nonesensical ape-like behaviour. it's not befitting a human being and should be addressed. Instead it's sponsored, packaged and stuffed down our throats. Our society is in a horrible place in terms of interpersonal relationships, and everyone seems just fine with it, because the tv tells them it's ok.
God forbid we should treat anyone with respect, and dignity. They're just whingeing little girls. We should blame the victim without waiting to hear the facts. If anyone says that anything bad ever happened to them, they must be making it up for attention.
This whole country needs to stop thinking with their dicks. We're worse than animals, we have the thought processes that could stop this cycle, and we refuse to use it.
stuff your throat
by Conan
Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 11:08 AM
Oh My GOd, Call the Marines...someone is actually making you watch Jimmy Kimmel and you can't even change the channel !! That is torture !!
TRANS PHOBIC
by Prodigal Yunzer
Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 11:35 AM
I think by far the most serious charge levelled at Rich Mackin was his transphobia. I read the Post Gazette this morning and see where the Democratic stronghold has failed to elect a decent proportion of women and racial minorities. Seems that the hateful GOP has the only woman who gets to leave town on our behalf to vote on matters affecting us all. Perhaps the free market for ideas and policies results in a more equitable result than dogma-enforcing policies. One group not even mentioned was the trans genders. Where do transgenders go to get their social justice? I see them on Liberty Avenue after midnight, all in the same 2 or 3 blocks. Why don't they organize?
Admit to What ??
by Torquimada
Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 12:27 PM
RICH MACKINDIDN'T ADMIT TO ANYTHING. I wish you IDIOTS would stop saying this like he admitted to the ridiculous allegations of sexual assault. You IDIOTS like to contort everythign to your new definitions of "crimes" against your OH SO frail and feeble self images. The following is exactly off of Rich's website and is the language that you IDIOTS keep saying is his "admission" to "sexual assualt"
RICH MACKIN - "Well, any comment I have on the last few days would take more time than I have to be of any validity. To sum up. I did some bad things. I have been accused of more bad things than I actually did.
I need to work on self improvement.
I have been called on my faults, but in doing so, some of those who called me out have done so in ways that many feel inappropriate or overkill. I would like to get more opinions before I discuss any of this more."
THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE AN ADMISSION TO MUCH OF ANYTHING. I am certain we have all done some "bad" things in our lives (if you can't admit to that you're a liar).
Oh, but of course, we do not want to even hint that we might be "blaming the victim" if we question whether the "victim" is even describing anything at all similar to "sexual assualt". Oh of course not, the "victim's" definition of the crime is "always" unquestionable, especially when the "victim" is a "womyn" or some other feeble and protected class of radical elitist. So it is better to hang one innocent man than to open that Pandora's Box of questioning the "victim".
And that is why you are IDIOTS. You will alway be IDIOTS. Your lives will always seem like a struggle against untold wrongs and injustices worked upon you by people who are different from you just because you think that you are different from them,and that is what gives you the right to confront them and the society that seems to so easily accept everyone other than you. Life must be a terrible struggle for you IDIOTS each day. There is someone else out there to look at you improperly (or at least make you feel like they looked at you improperly) or use a word that you think is offensive or racist just because you lack a command of the English (please don't anyone ever use 'water buffalo' or 'niggardly' again). And of course, that will become some afront to your sexuality or your self-image or your gender or your weight class that will cause you to lose sleep or adversely affect your job performance or give you gas. And then all of those things will have been the fault of that person who had no idea that looking at the zoo behind you or talking about their penny-pinching boss could result in them having oppressed you by not being conscious of their perpetuation of the latent oppression of the patriarchical western capitalist socioecopolitical regime. And then you will get their name and have a meeting that will degenerate into the consensus of a mob and will be followed by a support group and then a public statement decrying this person's support for the sensless massacre of women and children in some far off isolated communist enclave or the practice of forced clitorectomies in many African cultures.
OOOHH PAAAHHHLEASE ! The radical movement, the anarchist movement, the anti-liberation movement, the whatever-the-hell-we-are-protesting-this-day movement are just social clubs for idiotic, simpleminded, overally sensitive, weak self-image, angst-ridden, misfits trapped at the fringes of society with bad hair and fashion tastes.
YOUR COMMENT ABOUT BAD HAIR
by Prodigal Yunzer
Wednesday, Apr. 16, 2003 at 3:23 PM
Labels you a hirsutist. Bald people can be raving victim-imbeciles too! Just because we don't fit into your twisted Madison Avenue stereotype of radicals, doesn't mean you can invalidate us you hair loving baldyphobe.
Uhm
by Peabody
Tuesday, Apr. 22, 2003 at 12:25 AM
I find it really it really telling about how many people are so willing to blame the victims, especially supposed friends of Rich Mackin.
I commend all of the survivors and their efforts to get the word out about this creep. If he were to ever come to my town, I'd be right there with them, because the safety of women concerns me more than any threat of slander.
Uhm, Peabody, don't look now but your stupidity is showing
by No Friend Of Rich Mackin's
Tuesday, Apr. 22, 2003 at 11:18 AM
Hey, Peabody this isn't about blaming the victim, but about asking for responsibility on the part of everyone. I still have not seen or heard of ANYTHING (that means nothing, nada, zero, nothing at all) that even vaguely resembles a crime on the part of Rich Mackin. What violence is he committting against women, womyn, wickens, transophobics, translucents or anyone else????? It seems that only hate here is directed at Rich Mackin. And it seems that Project 1877 is a good venue for facilitating hate and injustice. Unless his accuser, Tinkerbell or Streetpixie or whatever her name is, is a minor, then Rich did absolutely nothing to label him the violent menace to society that all of you Haters of Rich Mackin have labeled him. So quit threatening the guy.
Some of the latest writings of Rich's accuser
by n.n.f.f.o.r.o.s.
Wednesday, Apr. 23, 2003 at 7:09 PM
The following is by Rosie Streetpixie, the woman (excuse me, womyn) who claims to have been irreparably sexually assualted by Rich Mackin and who all of you people at Project 1877 blindly believe:
__________________
I wake up in the middle of the night wanting nothing more in the world than his arm around me. I want it so badly I start to cry because he is sleeping very soundly on top of his arms. I don't know how to wake him up and ask. It's not his fault. It's not that he doesn't touch me or that we don't cuddle, because we DO. I feel like I'm being clingy and I just don't know how to ask for the things I need and want, so I just hang all over the place with unspoken words lingering on my lips.
I think I need to write an entire zine about this.
________________
OR HOW ABOUT THIS ONE:
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hallelujah
MY BOYFRIEND GOT A JOB!!!!!!
at traders joes, which is only like a 15 minute bike ride from the house. they immediately gave him 35 hours, he starts at $9.50, and he starts work tomorrow!!!!!!
Money = west coast, here we come!
so we celebrated by having loud sex to AC/DC.
_____________________
OR HOW ABOUT THIS BEAUTIFUL INSIGHTFUL PROSE:
_____________________
riding on the storrow drive bikepath tonight on one of those ten-or-so-every-year-perfect-weather-in-new-england days , was the best moment I've had in months. now I am off to go do that some more, get drunk with chuck and ed, and walk around allston making fun of stupid people.
p.s- i'm stoned for the first time in two months! holla!
__________________________
LOOKS TO ME LIKE SHE WOULD BE THE ONE TO BE CALLED STUPID THERE.
It really doesn't seem like her story is all it was made out to be. She seems to have no problem continuing to post on Rich's site. All in all, she seems like a fool who had a tiff with Rich and wanted to make trouble for him as she said in an earlier posting at his site.
But, Oh Not, the victim is always right. Maybe the rest of you lynch mobbers are too stupid to realize exactly what you did here.
fuckin god.
by jessica
Monday, Apr. 28, 2003 at 4:13 PM
goandhide@hotmail.com
man, fuck you, fuck your invalidation.
people ARE damaged by abuse, even if they don't spend the rest of their life crying into their cereal.
seriously - get a fuckin grip. do you know how much work it takes to function semi-normally after an attack? in a better world, your condescending attitude would be tranformed to words of support for this girl, congratulations to every step she's taken to get to where she is.
*back to the egg, asshole*
But the Real Isssue Is that It Does Not Seem That There was Ever an "Assault"
by So There Jess
Tuesday, Apr. 29, 2003 at 10:50 AM
THat is the real issue. Not that people are insensitive to the plight of victims of sexual assualt. I mean real victims. It just does not seem that anyone was ever "assaulted" by Rich mackin. You demean all victims of these terrible acts when you grant gratuitous victim status to anyone who merely says "Hey, that guy was rude to me and tried to hit on me when I wasnt interested. I AM VICTIM HEAR ME ROAR."
hidden posts
by emma
Tuesday, Apr. 29, 2003 at 8:22 PM
imc-pgh-editorial@indypgh.org
To the person posting as rich mackin: Please see the editorial policy. The Pgh IMC editorial collective will hide posts by impersonators.
http://indypgh.org/process/openpub.php#ed
Please get a life
by Jackel
Wednesday, Apr. 30, 2003 at 1:36 PM
At first, I was amazed to see people making these allegations about Rich Mackin. I thought that these people must surely be void of any and all common sense as they are surely to be sued and, moreover, they are demeaning and lowering the significance of sexual assault by not reporting it to authorities. Would they go to authorities if their spouse (or significant other) was murdered? What if their house was robbed? Or, would you just have a nice vigil or march over it?
I would think they would call 911 as fast as their fingers could hit the buttons. But they don't report to the police if they are raped or sexually assaulted? That not only demeans sexual assault and rape by not considering them serious crimes (which they are) but also destroys any credibility that the alleged victims have.
So, you have put yourself in significant jeopardy of a defamation lawsuit. You have demeaned sexual assault and rape. And, you have destroyed the credibility of all of the alleged victims, even for those who really are victims, if any. Hope you are all very proud of yourselves.
It is simply maddening to see this type of stupidity. Warning to all intelligent people, walk away from this soon or your brain will be sucked out and you will be just like them!
Baby I'm a Manarchistic Transphobe
by Mitch Rakin
Wednesday, Apr. 30, 2003 at 4:15 PM
I thought a streetpixie would be used to rough trade.
Hoochie Coo
by Makinme Itch
Wednesday, Apr. 30, 2003 at 8:54 PM
Sounds like streetpixie likes the rough trade when she wants it (or at least whenever her boyfriend of the moment gets a job).
About Streepixie...
by Rich Mackin is a Pimp Daddy !
Thursday, May. 01, 2003 at 2:01 PM
Streetpixie is just another greedy, selfish girl who wants what she wants, when SHE wants it. She will manipulate, cajole, threaten, cry, lie and use any other technique at her disposal to satisfy HER needs. Just another stupid girl who thinks the earth is in her orbit.
So who is Streetpixie
by Mark Inich
Thursday, May. 01, 2003 at 7:24 PM
So who the hell is this little self absorbed zine freaky hoochie that got all of these radical anarchist community groups across the country to buy her hatred of Rich Makin and then run off and drop thewhole thing when she got a new boyfriend. Project 1877 shoudl feel like they were duped (unless of course they are all to stupid to realize it). I think that the whoel Streetpixie/Rich Makin thing was just one of Rich Makin's gags that he ussually pulls on cororate america but has decided to expand it all to the anarchists underground community activist lunatic fringe. In that case the whole f'ing thing is pretty f'ing funny. I'll bet all of these posts end up in some kind of zine or as part of Rich's act.
You go Girl. Let them have it Rich. Corporate America has no monopoly on ignorance.
get your facts straight
by alexander berkman
Monday, May. 05, 2003 at 12:08 PM
that wasn't from "rich mackin's web site". that was from rosie's livejournal, which you can probably reach from rich mackin's livejournal. and i think picking apart someone's journal entries and saying "you're not sad enough" is really fucking disrespectful.
out of context much?
by heatherQ
Sunday, May. 11, 2003 at 8:54 PM
ok. so, first of all, livejournal is not "rich mackin's site" it's an online journal program used by over a million people that rich happened to link to on his site. got it? clear?
next. all those comments are about rosie's current boyfriend. NOT RICH. she is trying to regain some happiness in her life. she is not an idiot. i know her personally.
i also know rich personally. he was my boyfriend until a few weeks ago. while i think that some of the words that were used against him were sensational, he did do some things that were wrong and he is attempting to better himself.
ok?
Into Context
by Mark Ichin
Tuesday, May. 13, 2003 at 6:51 AM
Thanks for the technology lesson girlies, but it is really irrelevant. Rosie is still an idiot, there is no evidence the Rich committed the crimes he has been maligned for.
I hope that we all progress in the never ending life prossess of self improvement. So because Rich Mackin, like all of us, has done some things that he could have done better or become a better person through personal growth and understanding, he is to be rivled by society? Give me a break !! You are all idiots if you think that that is acceptable. So I am happy for Rosie Streeterchin, that she is trying to find happiness with a new boyfriend (and from the sounds of it, it was nothing that a little wild sex to some rock music on the living room floor couldn't cure). But nothing gave her the right to malign Rich Mackin the way she did. It seems that she was just pissed at him over some childish BS with the BTZT affairs. And then she got all of her little girly friends (and their girlyman boyfriends afraid of losing their ready access to sex) to attack Rich. Rosie is just a confused and vengeful little girl who isn't ready for prime time or civilized society. Just becasue your feelings get hurt DOES NOT mean you were raped. So quit demeaning the plight of TRUE rape victims with your self-involved whining adn crying.
bullshit
by matt
Saturday, May. 17, 2003 at 3:26 PM
rosie was taking over the zine fest long before any of the rich mackin controversy was starting up, because rich was moving away. she was upset that it might disrupt the zine fest, which she'd worked very hard on, and i'm sure you'd understand if you'd ever taken part in organizing any large events.
that, and it's remarkably petty to say "oh, she had one happy experience she posted to her livejournal, she can't have been that upset about anything"
...
by matt
Saturday, May. 17, 2003 at 3:29 PM
also, making personal attacks on rosie pretty much proves that you haven't been paying attention, because she only got involved in the "baby i'm a manarchist" project pretty late in the game, and her involvement is pretty minimal.
Oh Boo Hoo For Rosie and You
by Mia Rhinck
Saturday, May. 17, 2003 at 9:27 PM
Oh shut up already !!! Look, Rosie posted on her Live Journal that she was pissed off at Rich for some BTZT crap and said that she really want to hurt him. And this was just her way of hurting him. I am happy that she is happy now, but she stirred up this hornets nest over Rich all across the country nad then just wants to walk away. She has never proven up any of the ridiculous and slanderous charges agaisnt Rich. If he raped her then I say she needs to press charges. I would even drive her to the police station to do that. But she hasn't pressed charges, becasue he didn't rape her. She was in a consensual relatioship and all of her relations with him were consented to. Unless Rosie is of some protected class, like she is mentally disabled or underaged, then she has the ability to consent. So I hope she doesnt get pissed off at the new boyfriend and start slandering him.
Rich Mackin Lynch Mob
by Dick Tracy
Saturday, Aug. 02, 2003 at 11:54 PM
I attended the PDX Zine Symposium this weekend and tabled adjacent to Razorcake (Rich's publishers). Throughout the weekend, a mob swarmed around the table demanding that they refrain from selling his book. They were unbelievably belligerent and close-minded about the situation and refused to hear Razorcake's position on the situation. Whatever may or may not have happened with Rich and the womyn in question, blackballing Mackin's book and his publisher is the worst kind of fascism. His book is not about assaulting women, it's about confronting corporations. A copy of the Manarchist zine was handed to me and I have to admit it was likely the most illegible thing I tried to read all weekend. Doing more harm than good. It seemed to be the work of jealous, irrational, reactionary, and possibly insane people, hellbent on destroying the credibility and reputation of one of the more successful writers/personalities in the community. Most importantly, Rich Mackin is a person who from what I know has not been formally charged, and more importantly, convicted of anything. Agreed, sexual assault in any form is WRONG, but equal in WRONG is an ill-informed lynch mob. Fight evil. Don't become it.
The Rich Mackin Lynch Mob
by 2 balls
Sunday, Aug. 17, 2003 at 9:37 AM
That is what I thought. This is a personal and economic vendetta organized by Rosie Streeturchin and here girlie pals !!!
FREE RICH MACKIN !!!!! FREE EWAN KENKESMEARSE !!!!! FREE THE IMC OPPRESSED !!!!!
who cares?
by I don't care
Thursday, Aug. 21, 2003 at 12:55 AM
Who cares about Rich Mackin? Certainly not I. I could care less if he raped your dog.
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